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From Joe Brockmeier <...@zonker.net>
Subject Re: CloudStack Japanese user mailing list
Date Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:35:53 GMT
On 6/24/12 11:14 PM, Kimihiko Kitase wrote:
> Hi, We also want Japanese user mailing list like Chinese user mailing list. How do we
create?

You'd need to create a ticket here:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA

You can see the previous request for the Chinese mailing list here.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4944

Hope that helps!

Best,

Joe

> --Kimi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edison Su [mailto:Edison.su@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:42 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: CloudStack Chinese user mailing list
>
> Glad to announce that CloudStack Chinese user mailing list is created, just few minutes
ago.
> To subscribe: please send email to cloudstack-users-cn-subscribe@incubator.apache.org.
> BTW, it's Mandarin only though, maybe a little bit Cantonese is OK...:)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:45 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Can we use other language here?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Sheng Yang <sheng@yasker.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Wido den Hollander
>>>> <wido@widodh.nl>
>> wrote:
>>>>> On 06/19/2012 02:50 PM, Robert Schweikert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/19/2012 05:43 AM, Lu Heng wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One very interesting question raised by my Chinese tech today,
>> can we
>>>>>>> use Chinese in the mailling list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Seems there is no language restriction about in the mailling
>> list,
>>>>>>> and all language should be equal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. As I read and touched these days in the mailling list, a lot
>> guy
>>>>>>> from crixi developing CS are in fact Chinese.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is needed then we should have a language specific list.
>> However,
>>>>>> from a development point of view that'll put a big dent into
>>>>>> collaboration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd see a cloudstack-users-cn mailinglist earlier then a Chinese
>> developer
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>> My €0,02 says we should stick to English on the development list
>>>>> to
>> keep
>>>>> collaboration consistent. English isn't my native language either,
>> but it
>>>>> seems to be accepted as the language in software development?
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know English is harder to learn for Chinese people due
>> to the
>>>>> huge language differences. I wouldn't vote against a Chinese
>> development
>>>>> list, but I wouldn't endorse it either, due to the above reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wido
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My $0.02
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Generally a project uses a single language for development purposes
>>>> and while there is no technical barrier, splitting up the developer
>>>> community by language seems more deleterious than beneficial.
>>>>
>>>> This is further complicated by the fact that decisions have to be
>> made
>>>> on the mailing list - which then begs the question - where can
>> binding
>>>> decisions be made? In Apache projects that is supposed to happen on
>>>> the -dev list. However with two -dev lists that becomes a bit more
>>>> difficult.
>>>>
>>>>   So my personal take on the matter:
>>>> We have a number of developers for whom English is not their native
>>>> tongue - but it remains a common tongue for us. I'd certainly have
>> no
>>>> objection to language-specific user mailing lists. But missing
>> entire
>>>> development conversations, strikes me as a bad thing.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts, comments, flames?
>>>
>>> Agree. There should be no knowledge barrier between developers.
>>>
>>> And I am quite believe in English education in China. Again, don't
>>> worry about grammar or misspell etc.
>>>
>>> And localized user mailing is necessary I think.
>>>
>>> --Sheng
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>
>> Sheng, or Edison - feel free to create a ticket for INFRA at
>> issues.apache.org to create a Chinese language user mailing list.
>>
>> --David


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Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
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