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charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Absolutely support this, Giles. Let me know how we can help. Raj ________________________________ From: Marty Godsey Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:04:07 AM To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [discuss] cloudstack website Giles, I also think this is a great idea and give it a +1. Regards, Marty Godsey Principal Engineer nSource Solutions, LLC From: Giles Sirett [mailto:giles.sirett@shapeblue.com] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 6:30 AM To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: [discuss] cloudstack website For some time I've been thinking that the cloudstack.apache.org website is l= ooking a little dated and could do with a redesign I also feel quite strongly that we should move it to an easy-to-use CMS, rat= her than the middleman/github repo approach If we do that, we can broaden to pool of people who have the skills able to= udate the website (i.e. open it up potentially to people who don't know git= ,etc) This hopefully would allow us to keep the site more up to date, more easily So, first question: do others agree this seems like a good idea ? Moving on from this, I have had a discussion with a web agency that I know.= The net result is that they would consider helping us out on a pro-bono bas= is (to be frank, they are reasonably excited to be able to do some work for= an apache project - it's a good thing for them to talk about. All they ask= is a "site designed by" credit) They are https://www.blinkeredmedia.com/ (their site focusses on video but they knock out wordpress sites by the doze= n) They are up for getting involved in our community (maybe marketing@) as volu= nteers and working on a redesign So, next question: do people think this is a good idea, would we accept thei= r offer of help? Now, the potential challenges I see: 1. If we moved to something like wordpress, are ASF infra able to host= that? a. Assuming "no" - then is there anything to stop us using a commercia= l ISP ? - My $dayjob could donate a couple of years hosting if required, giv= ing control of it to this PMC. Is that allowable ? 2. The current workflow (AFAIK) only allows commiters to update the si= te. That's a sensible check process. So, if we moved to a CMS, how would we= enforce necessary karma, and who would have such karma ? 3. Has anybody got any experience of "commissioning" a website in an o= pen source community ? - they have already asked me lots of questions about= how it would work - and I' not sure. In theory, it can all be designed/rev= iewed/ etc on marketing@ but I would be a little anxious that it could turn= into a bike-shedding nightmare (and theres nothing designers love more than= 10 different opinions :) ) My thinking would be that, as long as they are happy to (and we are happy fo= r them to do so) we get them to come up with a design idea to give people a= starting point to look at If people think it's a good idea (and we can answer the challenges above) -= my first step would be to introduce these guys on lists and let them take i= t from there Kind Regards Giles giles.sirett@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com @shapeblue DISCLAIMER =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential information which is the= property of Accelerite, a Persistent Systems business. It is intended only= for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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Absolutely support this, Giles. Let me know how we can help.

Raj

From: Marty Godsey <marty@= gonsource.com>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:04:07 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: [discuss] cloudstack website
 

Giles,

 

I also think this is a great idea and give it a += 1.

 

Regards,

Marty Godsey

Principal Engineer

nSource Solutions, LLC

 

From: Giles Sirett [mailto:giles.sirett@shapeb= lue.com]
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 6:30 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: [discuss] cloudstack website

 

 

For some time I’ve been th= inking that the cloudstack.apache.org website is looking a little dated and= could do with a redesign

 

I also feel quite strongly that= we should move it to an easy-to-use CMS, rather than the middleman/github r= epo approach

If we do that, we can broaden to= pool of people who have the skills able to udate the website (i.e. open it= up potentially to people who don’t know git,etc)

 

This hopefully would allow us to= keep the site more up to date, more easily

 

 

So, first question: do others ag= ree this seems like a good idea ?

 

 

Moving on from this, I have had= a discussion with a web agency that I know. The net result is that they wou= ld consider helping us out on a pro-bono basis (to be frank, they are reason= ably excited to be able to do some work for an apache project – it’s a good thing for them to talk= about. All they ask is a “site designed by” credit)

 

They are https://www.blinkeredmedia.com/

(their site focusses on video bu= t they knock out wordpress sites by the dozen)

 

They are up for getting involved= in our community (maybe marketing@) as volunteers and working on a redesign=

 

So, next question: do people thi= nk this is a good idea, would we accept their offer of help?

 

Now, the potential challenges I= see:

 

1.If we moved to something like word= press, are ASF infra able to host that?

a.       Assuming “no” –= then is there anything to stop us using a commercial ISP ? – My $dayj= ob could donate a couple of years hosting if required, giving control of it= to this PMC. Is that allowable ?

2.The current workflow (AFAIK) only= allows commiters to update the site. That’s a sensible check process.= So, if we moved to a CMS, how would we enforce necessary karma, and who wou= ld have such karma ?

3.Has anybody got any experience of= “commissioning” a website in an open source community ? –= they have already asked me lots of questions about how it would work –= ; and I’ not sure.  In theory, it can all be designed/reviewed/ etc on marketing@ but I would be a little anxious that it could turn into a= bike-shedding nightmare (and theres nothing designers love more than 10 dif= ferent opinions J )

 

 

My thinking would be that, as lo= ng as they are happy to (and we are happy for them to do so)  we get th= em to come up with a design idea to give people a starting point to look at<= /span>

 

If people think it’s a goo= d idea (and we can answer the challenges above) – my first step would= be to introduce these guys on lists and let them take it from there<= /p>

 

 

 

 

Kind Regards

Giles

 

giles.siret= t@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
@shapeblue
  

  

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