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From Marty Godsey <>
Subject RE: [discuss] cloudstack website
Date Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:04:07 GMT

I also think this is a great idea and give it a +1.

Marty Godsey
Principal Engineer
nSource Solutions, LLC

From: Giles Sirett []
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 6:30 AM
Subject: [discuss] cloudstack website

For some time I've been thinking that the website is looking a little
dated and could do with a redesign

I also feel quite strongly that we should move it to an easy-to-use CMS, rather than the middleman/github
repo approach
If we do that, we can broaden to pool of people who have the skills able to udate the website
(i.e. open it up potentially to people who don't know git,etc)

This hopefully would allow us to keep the site more up to date, more easily

So, first question: do others agree this seems like a good idea ?

Moving on from this, I have had a discussion with a web agency that I know. The net result
is that they would consider helping us out on a pro-bono basis (to be frank, they are reasonably
excited to be able to do some work for an apache project - it's a good thing for them to talk
about. All they ask is a "site designed by" credit)

They are
(their site focusses on video but they knock out wordpress sites by the dozen)

They are up for getting involved in our community (maybe marketing@) as volunteers and working
on a redesign

So, next question: do people think this is a good idea, would we accept their offer of help?

Now, the potential challenges I see:

1.       If we moved to something like wordpress, are ASF infra able to host that?

a.       Assuming "no" - then is there anything to stop us using a commercial ISP ? - My $dayjob
could donate a couple of years hosting if required, giving control of it to this PMC. Is that
allowable ?

2.       The current workflow (AFAIK) only allows commiters to update the site. That's a sensible
check process. So, if we moved to a CMS, how would we enforce necessary karma, and who would
have such karma ?

3.       Has anybody got any experience of "commissioning" a website in an open source community
? - they have already asked me lots of questions about how it would work - and I' not sure.
 In theory, it can all be designed/reviewed/ etc on marketing@ but I would be a little anxious
that it could turn into a bike-shedding nightmare (and theres nothing designers love more
than 10 different opinions :) )

My thinking would be that, as long as they are happy to (and we are happy for them to do so)
 we get them to come up with a design idea to give people a starting point to look at

If people think it's a good idea (and we can answer the challenges above) - my first step
would be to introduce these guys on lists and let them take it from there

Kind Regards

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