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From Ian Rae <>
Subject Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Date Fri, 12 Feb 2016 00:22:31 GMT
Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for
the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an
Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean
and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about
sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc….
That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world
is of benefit to none.

I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community would
prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world it
has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and
other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address.

CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition. We
have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely
known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work
on this now.


On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <>

> Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of
> our software and the effort by this community
> Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite
> the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
> We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We
> all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the
> attention of AN Other project
> This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed by
> our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for this
> project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack integration
> is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont start until
> that user community starts speaking publically
> Kind Regards
> Giles
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilya []
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> To:
> Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
> margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large
> sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
> REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
> involved in ACS community and beyond!
> Regards
> ilya
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