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From Chip Childers <chipchild...@apache.org>
Subject Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Date Fri, 12 Feb 2016 00:25:38 GMT
+1 to what both Giles and Ian are saying.

Skip the hype. Focus on real value being seen by users. Educate, don't
confuse.



On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Ian Rae <irae@cloudops.com> wrote:

> Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for
> the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an
> Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean
> and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about
> sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc….
> That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world
> is of benefit to none.
>
> I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community
> would prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world
> it has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and
> other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address.
>
> CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition.
> We have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely
> known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work
> on this now.
>
> Ian
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <giles.sirett@shapeblue.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of
>> our software and the effort by this community
>>
>> Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite
>> the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
>>
>>
>> We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We
>> all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the
>> attention of AN Other project
>>
>>
>> This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed
>> by our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for
>> this project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack
>> integration is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont
>> start until that user community starts speaking publically
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Giles
>>
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ilya [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 10 February 2016 22:11
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>>
>> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>>
>>
>> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>>
>>
>> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
>> margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
>> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
>> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
>> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large
>> sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
>>
>> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
>> REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
>> involved in ACS community and beyond!
>>
>> Regards
>> ilya
>>
>>
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