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From Madan Ganesh Velayudham <>
Subject Re: Thoughts on Citrix announcement yesterday
Date Wed, 13 Jan 2016 04:01:28 GMT
Hi Sebastien,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I concur with your thoughts.

I was part of both of these teams earlier, in my opinion, this is the best
thing that could have happened for CCP product and team.

We look forward to extend our support the new Accelerite to our community.
Thank you Citrix and team.

*Action speaks more than words*,

Lets continue to rock with solid ACS and enable more enterprises/SMBs to
adopt the ACS technology.

Happy Cloudstacking,


On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:51 PM Sebastien Goasguen <> wrote:

> Hi everyone (cross-posting),
> Yesterday Citrix announced that it sold its CloudPlatform business to
> Accelerite from Persistent Systems [1]
> As you know CloudPlatform is Citrix’s commercial distribution of Apache
> CloudStack. I wanted to share a few thoughts on what this means for
> CloudStack.
> One of the core tenet of the Apache Software Foundation is non-affiliation
> to companies, as such all of us on these lists participate and contribute
> to CloudStack as individuals. While the majority of us who are contributing
> daily to CloudStack are actually doing it as part of our day jobs we still
> voice our opinions as individuals and companies do not (and should not)
> have influence on what we do. This is one of the things that makes ASF
> great. This is also one of the reasons why the ASF  and us as a project
> will not comment on this announcement. It is Citrix’s business, not ours.
> That said, Citrix gave CloudStack to the ASF back in 2012 and contributed
> heavily in the early days to its development and maintenance. We should be
> thankful to Citrix for donating this software and helping the community
> grow. Giving it to the ASF was also the move that allows us to keep on
> going like “business” as usual. We as a project do not depend on Citrix.
> Hence Citrix selling its CloudPlatform business does not change our day to
> day.
> Over the years it is fair to say that Citrix involvement through the many
> individuals participating on these lists as diminished, with the vast
> majority of the work now carried on by others. If we were to do a ASF
> “faux-pas” and actually check affiliation of the folks that are doing most
> of the development and release work, we would see other companies than
> Citrix. Companies offering CloudStack services but also and mostly
> CloudStack users, a few doing it as a hobby and most because their company
> uses it. This is open source at its core, folks using a software, loving
> it, loving their peers, and contributing back for the benefit of everyone.
> It is impossible for me to say what Accelerite will do, I have had no
> contact with them so far and did not know this sale was coming. Neither do
> I know what will happen to all the fine Citrix engineers that were still
> working on CloudStack. Whatever they do, I wish them the best and thank
> them for the dedication to our project over the years. Early indication
> from the press release seems to indicate that Accelerite will engage with
> us. If they do, we will welcome them like any contributors to an ASF
> project. With openness, transparency and respect (the Apache way).
> I do want to mention that I think this may be an opportunity for
> CloudStack. Observers might think that our project is dead because of
> Citrix selling its business, but they would be mis-informed about the
> nature of ASF projects. I actually believe the contrary and think this will
> be a time where more users and potentially companies will engage more
> actively. They will see that the route to a successful Cloud is through
> engaging and becoming part of our community. They will also finally stop
> thinking that CloudStack is a Citrix product and that might be the kicker
> that brings them on board.
> Finally, being a technical guy, I like to focus on technical things. We
> have done some great strides over the past 8 months, we have stabilized
> CloudStack and are now releasing faster than ever, we have dockerized, we
> have pluginized, we have had several events... In september we will go to
> Brazil for CCC. Brazil is seeing a huge growth in CloudStack adoption.
> We still have a ton to do, from removing technical debt, fixing security
> issues, improving packaging, making CloudStack ever more easier to develop
> and use. This has not changed. We have some very important discussions
> going on around LTS and GitHub hosting. If anything I think the container
> movement is a bigger threat to our project than Citrix’s announcement. As
> companies start to embrace the container ecosystem and building
> containerized applications, what happens to CloudStack ? How does
> CloudStack work in a container world ? The same question are valid for
> OpenStack by the way, I just don’t buy into the Magnum effort, but I
> digress :)
> So thank you Citrix, we hope to welcome Accelerite and let’s keep on
> Stacking,
> [1]
> -Sebastien
> VP Apache CloudStack

Madan Ganesh Velayudham
Founder & CEO

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