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From Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>
Subject Re: or website
Date Thu, 05 Mar 2015 21:51:26 GMT
I don't think that Ian was suggesting that we get rid of that wording
completely.  I think he was saying that we could supplement that message
with some more interesting marketing that will better illustrate the value
proposition of ACS and how it is differentiated.

Will


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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Sally Khudairi <
sallykhudairi@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

> NOT SO FAST.
> Whilst it's old hat to us, it's still relevant.
> Per the 2015 Linux Jobs Report published yesterday:
> "The rise of open cloud platforms is creating even more demand for Linux
> professionals with the right expertise. Forty-two percent of hiring
> managers say that experience in OpenStack and CloudStack will have a major
> impact on their hiring decisions..."
>
> So I think it _is_ important that we keep "Open Source Cloud Computing",
> but perhaps augment to more closely align with our "Just Works" and related
> campaigns/taglines.
> Whilst we may need a bit of Botox, it's not necessary to have a complete
> overhaul.
> Thanks for including us in the dialogue, Ian <g>
> Cheers,Sally
>       From: Ian Rae <irae@cloudops.com>
>  To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Cc: "users@cloudstack.apache.org" <users@cloudstack.apache.org>; "
> marketing@cloudstack.apache.org" <marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 11:41
>  Subject: Re: or website
>
> Recommend we start with the purpose of the website. If only informational
> and logistics, documentation and code then perhaps it doesn't matter. But I
> think there is a greater purpose.
> I would argue it not only represents our project and community, but
> communicates our project and community to the rest of the world and to some
> extent aligns the community itself.
> So I agree with Seb that having a modern, professional, ideally attractive
> design is very important. Equally important that the vision, mission of the
> community be clear and accessible, and ideally, exciting! What problem does
> CloudStack solve better than anything else? Does it solve it in the way the
> market is looking for (i.e. costs nothing for a complete product that works
> out of box, vendor neutral, runs easily and reliably and can be upgraded
> for long term supportability).
> Today if you glance at the site you see "Open Source Cloud Computing". I'm
> not sure that's very helpful in an age where everything is moving to open
> source and cloud computing no longer seems to mean in the market what it
> did in 2008 (pretty much every web or mobile app or hosting services seems
> to be "cloud").
> Cross posting this discussion to marketing, hopefully this can intersect
> with renewed investment by the community members to make CloudStack more
> accessible to the rest of the world and thus bring more participants to the
> community.
> Ian
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Sebastien,
>
> I really like the initiative, while cms.apache.org is handy I think the
> gh-pages repo looks neat plus we can continue to use git and not archaic
> svn :)
>
> I think we can then perhaps have an automated way to build the gh-pages
> branch and copy the htmls to cms etc. Should we also use Jekyll based
> website since the link (http://apache.github.io/cloudstack/) will be
> built automatically by Github (need to confirm, if it allows for non-master
> branches)? I’ve some Jekyll based experience, my website too is hosted on
> Github and uses Jekyll.
>
> > On 05-Mar-2015, at 8:01 pm, Sebastien Goasguen <runseb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The website has been bugging me greatly, it's not up to par with today's
> website and does not portray our project in a good way.
> >
> > I decided to try something quick. I created a gh-pages branch in our
> repo, orphaned from the rest of the code based and pushed that.
> > It shows up on github due to the mirroring:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/gh-pages
> >
> > And it builds:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/gh-pages
> >
> > I believe that's nice, it allows us to keep the website under ASF root
> repo but the mirroring allows us to use github pages.
> > That means we can take pull requests to build our website instead of
> using svn or the apache CMS.
> >
> > Any amazing web designer on these lists who wants to take a crack at a
> modern design for cloudstack ?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > -sebastien
>
> Regards,
> Rohit Yadav
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