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From Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Latest Blog Post
Date Tue, 03 Feb 2015 13:15:07 GMT
Giles, no argument against prudence. Not applauding the only
derivative our project has would be a bad sign as well. commercial or
not. Wonder what marketing@faundation has to say about that.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Giles Sirett
<giles.sirett@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> It is a good article and thanks to Steve for writing and Karen to *trying*
> to promote. Sunando is right – its great to see any cloudstack related
> coverage and I agree that this can only help the overall awareness.
>
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> However, it is an article about CCP, not about Apache Cloudstack. I have no
> criticism of that, its great to see, and an interesting read.
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> From a practicality viewpoint:
>
> I think the problem with promoting this from the project is it could
> actually lead to confusion. (we all know many in the media still refer to
> this as Citrix Cloudstack) . If the official Cloudstack feeds suddenly start
> tweeting about specific vendors tech or services, that’s ripe for confusion
>
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> From a governance perspective:
>
> The project should not be promoting 3rd party product marketing in this way.
>
> With a marketers hat on, that’s frustrating, but  I wouldn’t ask an Apache
> project to promote my business through official channels
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> On Marks comment “dammed if we do, dammed if we don’t”  : Mark I don’t think
> anybody’s criticising anybody else for ramping up the marketing efforts. The
> previous threads were about the uncertainty of Citrxs involvement in
> Cloudstack, and this type of activity certainly helps dispel some of that.
> I think this is a specific issue about asking a “group of  volunteers” to
> start promoting  a piece of vendor marketing. To that extent, I think this
> discussion thread would have started at any point in time if Karen made the
> same request (i.e. I think we need to separate these two subjects. This is a
> specific issue been raised about this one request – not about  the bigger
> picture)
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> But lets not fight over this: I’m happy to tweet about this article, (and
> think I already have )  - I’m sure many others here will also be happy to do
> so (and some may not)
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> Kind Regards
>
> Giles
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> D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
>
> Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
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> From: Sunando Bhattacharya [mailto:sunando@indiqus.com]
> Sent: 03 February 2015 05:05
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org; Abhinandan Prateek
> Cc: Chip Childers (chipchilders@apache.org); David Nalley
> Subject: Re: Latest Blog Post
>
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> I think promoting this blog actually helps our overall cause.
>
>
>
> Over the last few months, we have always felt that one of the major reasons
> of cloudstack being a laggard (adoption-wise) is the general perception in
> the market that Citrix is slowly pulling out its support from the project.
> Hence articles like these go a long way in changing those perceptions.
>
>
>
> Moreover, one of the big reasons for the widespread interest in Openstack is
> the number of vendors offering commercial forks/support on it. Hence if any
> other vendor comes out with the same for cloudstack, we should happily
> promote.
>
>
>
> However, I also agree with Abhi that any post by Citrix should also have a
> few lines that talk about the Cloudstack project/ community in general.
>
>
>
> —
>
> Best,
>
> Sunando Bhattacharya
> +91 97111 52299
> www.indiqus.com
>
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>
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> On 3 February 2015 at 10:25:09 am, Abhinandan Prateek
> (abhinandan.prateek@shapeblue.com) wrote:
>
> Yes, it is a nice post about the closed source private fork, that was rarely
> discussed in community.
>
> I would expect such blogs that are promoted officially to do more to display
> the vibrancy of the community, instead of taking a narrow view.
> It is debatable whether it should be promoted officially, though for this
> instance I will keep my vote neutral.
>
> -abhi
>
>
>> On 03-Feb-2015, at 9:49 am, Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>
>> Steve - Good post on CCP.
>>
>> Karen - why should we be promoting any closed source fork on CloudStack’s
>> twitter account? As long as a fork is closed source and we don’t have the
>> four freedoms to run it like we wish, study the code, modify, and
>> redistribute -- we should not care. If the blog could be modified to promote
>> the Apache CloudStack project then it would be alright to share it on the
>> official social media accounts.
>>
>>> On 02-Feb-2015, at 9:55 pm, Karen Vuong <karen.vuong@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve – nice blog post!
>>>
>>> Chip/David – could you help upload a few tweets that I’ve created to the
>>> @CloudStack Twitter account?
>>> Spreadsheet:https://citrix.sharefile.com/d/s357c5f8e3754958b
>>>
>>> Help promote:
>>>
>>> I’ve created a few click-to-tweets. When you get a chance today, please
>>> feel free to help promote this blog post!
>>>
>>> Click to Tweet: http://ctt.ec/Gs45e
>>>
>>> Building a carrier-grade cloud with @Citrix CloudPlatform - powered by
>>> Apache #CloudStack clds.co/1Ajf7ZM #cloudstackworks #xenserver
>>>
>>> Click to Tweet: http://ctt.ec/aa7B5
>>> Powered by #CloudStack. CCP is touted by many as the most mature & robust
>>> option for building an #IaaS cloud clds.co/1Ajf7ZM @Citrix
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Karen
>>>
>>> From: Steve Wilson [mailto:steve.wilson@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 8:47 AM
>>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Subject: Latest Blog Post
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Here’s my latest blog post on Citrix CloudPlatform (powered by Apache
>>> Cloudstack). Please feel free to share this:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://blogs.citrix.com/2015/01/30/carrier-grade-cloud-with-citrix-cloudplatform-4-5/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>
>> Regards,
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