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From Adrian Lewis <>
Subject RE: Poor response from commercial vendor
Date Tue, 16 Dec 2014 03:18:43 GMT
Not sure it’s fair to declare their name on a public list, especially if
they change their minds. Mark – I’ve sent you a direct email.

*From:* Mark Hinkle []
*Sent:* 16 December 2014 03:07
*Subject:* Re: Poor response from commercial vendor

It would be helpful for us to know the vendor I work in the Citrix
Alliances group and I'd be glad to help there.

Given the laundry list of vendors who have a financial stake in OpenStack
it's not going to be the first time we hear this. Keep in mind Citrix has a
myriad of products and they partner with Amazon, Google, Microsoft and a
number of OpenStack supporters it will always be a case of "and" and not
"or". We've fought bias from analysts for years who make big bucks from
OpenStack supporters. If the only voice speaking to analysts is Citrix it
won't make a difference. I do know a number of community members spoke to
the 451 Group recently. Lobbying Lydia Leong(@cloudpundit) on Twitter to
share our collective stories would help quite a bit.


On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Adrian Lewis <>

Just had this very disappointing reply when asking a commercial vendor
about integrating their product with CS:

*The recent changes in Citrix corp around the strategic direction of
Cloudstack leaves a lot of risk from the enterprise support aspect. Key
people leaving and reorganization causing problems with viability and
direction. Cloudstack has a vibrant community aspect which Citrix probably
won't let die but the enterprise support side might pivot towards
Openstack. This leaves Cloudstack out in the cold, not dead but only with
no commercial support in the community. Most major vendors are around
Openstack, and Citrix might be forced to shift. [Commercial Vendor]
believes in the freedom of all clouds; however, we have to focus one area
at a time. Once AWS, Openstack, hypervisor we might have capacity to be
more encompassing.*

Looks like Citrix really need to put out a better message to the industry
if this is not the case, if only to protect their Cloud Platform revenues.
It seems that a few poorly worded blog posts by ‘analysts’ have done a lot
of damage. This is not the first commercial vendor that seems to hold this

Is there anything more to add to this?


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