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From Chris REID <ch...@pointgreen.biz>
Subject Re: Apache Objectives
Date Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:58:55 GMT
Cheers David



*Chris Reid*

Head - Infrastructure and Cloud Business Unit

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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:50 PM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:

> Let me see if this response gets you any further. Essentially the tenants
> of 'the Apache Way' are:
>
> So first there is the mission of the ASF - releasing software, free of
> charge to the public.
>
> Some of the tenants of the Apache Way are:
> * Consensus-based decision making
> * Meritocracy
> * Collaborative development
> * Peer-based
> * Responsible oversight
> * Pragmatism
>
> So lets start with decision making. Generally in companies, or even some
> open source projects you have a management chain that gets to make
> decisions. At the ASF projects need to get consensus within their project.
> This requires that the project actually work together to make progress, but
> might mean that some decisions are made slower than others. Projects also
> have a concept of veto for technical matters. This allows one person to
> take a stand for a technical reason and put a stop to any code.
>
> Now, as to who gets to make decisions. Employer doesn't dictate whether you
> get a seat at the table, instead the Project Management Committee looks at
> people who are doing work, and vote people to become committers, and for
> folks who actually seem to care about governance of the project itself, to
> the Project Management Committee. And that's really where technical
> direction stops. The Project Management Committee runs the project. The
> Foundation itself has some guidelines to comply with from a legal and brand
> image perspective, but has no say in project decision making. The PMC is
> responsible to the board to ensure that a healthy community environment is
> present in the project, and that those legal and brand issues are complied
> with, and that's essentially the oversight that's provided. We have a point
> person who is responsible for liaising with the Board, in the form of our
> PMC Chair.
>
> The ASF is peer-based. That is, we don't recognize companies, we are all
> individuals, and your title at $dayjob doesn't matter here. We are all
> peers. We also do our work here, at the ASF, on the mailing lists,
> collaboratively. People are actively discouraged from doing work in private
> or excluding others from working with them and just showing up with
> finished code.
>
> Finally, pragmatism, the mission of projects at the ASF is to release
> software. What folks do with our software is less of a concern, and we
> accordingly have a very commercial-friendly license. This means that some
> folks will take our code, make changes and those changes will never come
> back to the project, and we are okay with that. If folks want to come
> collaborate with us, they are welcome to, but we don't force people to.
>
> Now, you asked for a presentation, and I don't know that I have one that
> ties the ASF principles to ACS. You may find some interesting presentations
> regarding the Apache Way here:
> http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html
>
> --David
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Chris REID <chris@pointgreen.biz> wrote:
>
> > Chip - take someone interested in CloudStack for their business but with
> > no experience of OS.
> > They'd want to understand the fundamentals specific to how Cloudstack is
> > released, updated etc.
> >  Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > *Chris Reid*
> >
> > Head - Infrastructure and Cloud Business Unit
> >
> >    -  uk.linkedin.com/pub/chris-reid/0/90b/b0a
> >
> > Mob: +44 7703 50 32 34
> > chris@pointgreen.biz <http://patrick@pointgreen.biz/>
> > SKYPE chris.reidyork
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Chip Childers <chipchilders@apache.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 03:10:25PM +0100, Chris REID wrote:
> >> > All,
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone point me to a simple presentation that describes the
> >> underlying
> >> > principles of Apache and how that is reflected in Cloudstack and it's
> >> > release mechanism?
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >>
> >> Hmmm...  that's a bit of a vague question, with tons of ways to
> >> interpret it.  Are you talking about the how / why we have certain
> >> intellectual property policies?  Or are you talking about the community
> >> development aspects? Something else?
> >>
> >> -chip
> >>
> >
> >
>

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