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From Kelly Hair <kelly.h...@citrix.com>
Subject Re: CloudStack MS on Windows - thoughts?
Date Thu, 21 Nov 2013 00:01:25 GMT
Yes, true, don’t allow territorial pissings to trump pragmatism.  My
distaste has festered for 20 some odd years & I highly doubt the Azure
team will be calling me anytime soon :)   That said, they have a… ahem..
Nice PaaS platform & 2014 is year of the PaaS!







On 11/20/13, 6:55 PM, "Musayev, Ilya" <imusayev@webmd.net> wrote:

>I'm naturally alergic to windows as get severe migraines within half hour
>of using it.
>
>With that, Windows is still a very significant portion of the market and
>I can't think of any open source cloud platform that runs on Windows or
>cross platform.
>
>Considering that 99% of ACS code can run on windows it would make a lot
>of sense to have Windows support - even if its "experimental" at the
>early stage.
>
>The number of windows shops on east coast is greater than linux shops.
>Thats a huge market and can be a great marketing gain for us.
>
>Just think of headlines and PR alone ;)
>
>I would have taken this on myself, but I have to much of knowledge drift
>there.
>
>- All mistakes in this message are not mine but Android's.
>
>
>-------- Original message --------
>From: Kelly Hair <kelly.hair@citrix.com>
>Date: 11/20/2013 5:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>Subject: Re: CloudStack MS on Windows - thoughts?
>
>
>That is true.  There have been folks that have said - ³that¹s nice but we
>don¹t really know Linux.²   That said, I love me some Linux so keep the
>Windows versions away from me :)
>
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>
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>On 11/20/13, 5:42 PM, "Geoff Higginbottom"
><geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>
>>I love this idea.  Windows shops are very anti Linux but if we combine
>>Hyper-V support with windows based management server server support,
>>that's got to give open up a whole new market.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Geoff Higginbottom
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>>On 20 Nov 2013, at 23:35, "Sebastien Goasguen"
>><runseb@gmail.com<mailto:runseb@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
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>>On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Geralyn Miller
>><geralyn.miller@citrix.com<mailto:geralyn.miller@citrix.com>> wrote:
>>
>>You have much to learn about Azure :)
>>
>>
>>we are all ears
>>
>>From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:20 PM
>>To: Geralyn Miller
>>Cc:
>>marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>Subject: Re: CloudStack MS on Windows - thoughts?
>>
>>I was thinking of Azure as a PaaS sitting on top of ACS-managed
>>infrastructure.
>>
>>I haven't tried this yet, but it *seems* possible...
>>
>>On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Geralyn Miller
>><geralyn.miller@citrix.com<mailto:geralyn.miller@citrix.com><mailto:geral
>>y
>>n.miller@citrix.com>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>John--So, what do you mean by an "Azure cloud powered by ACS"?
>>Are you referring to the IaaS capability of Azure, so basically bringing
>>up ACS in a Linux VM running in Azure?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net<http://webmd.net>]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:33 AM
>>To: John Kinsella;
>><marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org><
>>m
>>ailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>>
>>Subject: RE: CloudStack MS on Windows - thoughts?
>>
>>Azure PR - would be way to fun, the only caveat, I had a friend who
>>worked for Azure and hence I'm strong believer if you mix Azure and ACS,
>>its actually going to do more harm than good.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:11 AM
>>To:
>><marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org><
>>m
>>ailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>>; Musayev, Ilya
>>Subject: Re: CloudStack MS on Windows - thoughts?
>>
>>Seems easy enough to me (at first glance) altho SystemCenter already
>>supports Xenserver (supposedly - can't say I've run it)
>>
>>Another fun PR stunt would be an Azure cloud powered by ACS. It's on
>>my radar, but probably won't try until some time in Q1.
>>
>>John
>>
>>On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:06 AM, "Musayev, Ilya"
>><imusayev@webmd.net<mailto:imusayev@webmd.net><mailto:imusayev@webmd.net>
>>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>As insane as it sounds,  we have a definite advantage over other
>>projects
>>since we are running cross platform java.
>>
>>
>>Why not offer a Windows build as convinience? We are going to take
>>Windows market share that is afraid of Linux command line (that's
>>still a very significant population outside of bay area). I know for
>>certain OS or Euca do not run on Windows.
>>
>>
>>This maybe our advantage we can use as marketing and get many more
>>people on board.
>>
>>
>>Any thoughts on marketing?  I will be asking this on dev.
>>
>>Source: Friend of mine who does ACS development had it running in
>>Windows environment.
>>
>>
>>
>>- All mistakes in this message are not mine but Android's.
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