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From David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>
Subject Re: TR: Apache CloudStack logo use / validation
Date Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:22:56 GMT
(calls attention again to the mixed public/private lists)

Disclaimer: my ramblings aren't binding, just ramblings.

Hi Anne:

First, thanks for taking the time to reach out and respect the ASF's brands.

As others have mentioned, 'powered by' works well.
See:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#poweredby

The issue that I have with 'operated by' is really an inaccuracy of
the english definition of operated. It can mean use (which would
probably be acceptable) or it could mean control or manage; which in
my mind isn't acceptable. Perhaps (and again, my opinion isn't
binding) something like:

apache cloudstack

powers

ikoula

would be more acceptable from a trademark perspective.

--David

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Chip Childers <chipchilders@apache.org> wrote:
> (note mixed public / private lists)
>
> The "Powered By" design seems great!
>
> As for the second design, I'm concerned a little about the connotation
> that iKoula "operates" the project.  I've included the Apache Brand
> Management team on this email to see if there are any comments from that
> list.  As it stands, I'd suggest something different for the second
> design.  If our VP of Brand Management (Shane) says that it's OK as is,
> then you could proceed with the second design.
>
> Thank you again for your respect of Apache brands, and for making this
> request!
>
> -chip
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:07:40AM +0000, Anne Claire Pourchasse wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I think, it will be easier this way :
>>
>> http://www.ikoula.com/sites/default/files/Tshirt_1.gif
>> http://www.ikoula.com/sites/default/files/Tshirt_2.gif
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Anne-Claire Pourchasse
>>
>> De : Anne Claire Pourchasse
>> Envoyé : vendredi 15 novembre 2013 10:58
>> À : marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Cc : giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
>> Objet : RE: Apache CloudStack logo use / validation
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the two mock-up:
>>
>>
>>
>> [cid:image002.jpg@01CEE1F1.8FB8BD60]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [cid:image006.jpg@01CEE1F1.8FB8BD60]
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you please let us know ASAP if we have your approval ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>>
>>
>> Anne-Claire Pourchasse
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Chip Childers [mailto:chipchilders@apache.org]
>> Envoyé : jeudi 14 novembre 2013 22:40
>> À : Anne Claire Pourchasse; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> Cc : giles.sirett@shapeblue.com<mailto:giles.sirett@shapeblue.com>
>> Objet : Re: Apache CloudStack logo use / validation
>>
>>
>>
>> Just making sure Anne got this.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 07:42:28PM +0000, Chiradeep Vittal wrote:
>>
>> > Anne, the mailing list strips out attachments. You could send us links
>>
>> > to the images.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On 11/14/13 9:44 AM, "Anne Claire Pourchasse" <apourchasse@ikoula.com<mailto:apourchasse@ikoula.com>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > >Hello
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Here are two mock-up of the design we would like to print on shirts
>>
>> > >for our team to use on divers CloudStack events.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >We would like to have them ready for the CloudStack Collab conf.
>>
>> > >Could you please let us know by tomorrow morning (if possible) if we
>>
>> > >are allowed to use that.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Thanks
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Anne-Claire Pourchasse
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >-----Message d'origine-----
>>
>> > >De : Giles Sirett [mailto:giles.sirett@shapeblue.com]
>>
>> > >Envoyé : mardi 12 novembre 2013 19:00 À :
>>
>> > >marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : RE: Apache CloudStack logo
>>
>> > >use / validation
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Hi Anne-Claire
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >WE've just been through this process oursevles, so am full of
>>
>> > >advice........
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >First check the guidelines:
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >For more information, please see our project's Trademark Guidelines
>>
>> > >[1] and the ASF-wide trademark usage policy [2].
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >[1] http://cloudstack.apache.org/trademark-guidelines.html
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
>>
>> > >Designs for non-software goods require both PMC approval and approval
>>
>> > >from trademarks@apache.org<mailto:trademarks@apache.org<mailto:trademarks@apache.org%3cmailto:trademarks@apache.org>>.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Next, post a mock-up of the design on @marketing. Approval will  not
>>
>> > >be given without a design
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >I'm not sure how well "CloudStack operated by Ikoula" will go down.
>>
>> > >That wording could be construed a number of ways.
>>
>> > >There was talk recently of an official "powered by" logo, but I don't
>>
>> > >know where that has got to
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
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>> > >
>>
>> > >Kind Regards
>>
>> > >Giles
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
>>
>> > >Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com<mailto:giles.sirett@shapeblue.com<mailto:Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com%3cmailto:giles.sirett@shapeblue.com>>
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >From: Anne Claire Pourchasse [mailto:apourchasse@ikoula.com]
>>
>> > >Sent: 12 November 2013 17:41
>>
>> > >To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>
>> > >Subject: Apache CloudStack logo use / validation
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Hello,
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Regarding the Apache CloudStack logo use, we would like to print it
>>
>> > >on a shirt that our team could wear for different CloudStack events.
>>
>> > >Is the Apache CloudStack logo attached to this email can be used for
>>
>> > >that purpose?
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Can we write "CloudStack operated by Ikoula" on that shirt?
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Thanks for your validation.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Regards
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Anne-Claire Pourchasse |  Responsable Communication Ikoula - 175/177
>>
>> > >rue d'Aguesseau - 92100 Boulogne Billancourt - France Tel : +33 1 84
>>
>> > >01 02 69
>>
>> > > |  Fax : +33 1 84 01 02 50 |  www.ikoula.com<http://www.ikoula.com/<http://www.ikoula.com%3chttp:/www.ikoula.com/>>
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >[Ikoula]<http://www.ikoula.com/>
>>
>> > >Ikoula, c'est deux divisions
>>
>> > >Express Hosting : Des solutions d'hébergements packagées et flexibles
>>
>> > >allant du nom de domaine aux serveurs dédiés physiques ou virtuels
>>
>> > >disponibles en 15 min.
>>
>> > >Enterprise Services : Spécialiste de l'infogérance, du cloud
>>
>> > >computing et des plateformes collaboratives, Ikoula assure en 24/7
>>
>> > >sur site, la haute disponibilité de vos applications et garantit votre
tranquillité.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >[Ikoula sur Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/ikoula>  [Ikoula sur
>>
>> > >Twitter] <https://twitter.com/ikoula>   [Ikoula sur Google+]
>>
>> > ><https://plus.google.com/108087908639247353192>   [Ikoula sur Linkdin]
>>
>> > ><http://www.linkedin.com/company/ikoula>   [Ikoula sur Viadeo]
>>
>> > ><http://fr.viadeo.com/fr/company/ikoula>   [Ikoula sur Youtube]
>>
>> > ><http://www.youtube.com/ikoulanet>
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >Avant d'imprimer ce courrier, réfléchissons à l'impact sur
>>
>> > >l'environnement !
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>
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>>
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>>
>> > >author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or
>>
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>>
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>>
>> > >copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you
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>>
>> > >Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales.
>>
>> > >ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and
>>
>> > >is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil
>>
>> > >Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated
>>
>> > >under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
>>
>> >
>>
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