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Subject: Re: CloudStack vs OpenStack comparison?
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:12:16 +0200
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Thanks Kelly - that was very useful.

I ended up using the following links along with some additional text:

- "CloudStack vs. OpenStack":  =
http://www.cloudops.com/2013/06/cloudstack-vs-openstack-a-personal-experie=
nce/

- "Is CloudStack more enterprise ready than OpenStack":   =
http://www.datamation.com/cloud-computing/is-cloudstack-more-enterprise-re=
ady-than-openstack-1.html

- "CloudStack Overview":  =
http://www.slideshare.net/gavin_lee/cloud-stack-overview

- OpenStack architecture diagram:  =
http://vmartinezdelacruz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/openstack-logical-=
arch-folsom.png

On 21.06.2013, at 18:45, Kelly Hair <kelly.hair@citrix.com> wrote:

> Prodosh,
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> High level comparison of CloudStack vs. OpenStack:
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> * Product vs. project focus
> * Simplicity vs. Complexity
> * Scalable vs. non-scalable
> * Enterprise & "Amazon style" vs. "Amazon style" workload support
> * AWS compatibility  vs. OpenStack specific API
> * Maturity of CloudStack vs. OpenStack
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> Product vs. project focus
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> CloudStack is an integrated product complete with a working portal and
> multiple APIs (CloudStack API or AWS EC2).  OpenStack is a promising =
set
> of projects (think there's 15 now but I may be corrected).
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> Simplicity vs. Complexity
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> See:=20
> =
http://vmartinezdelacruz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/openstack-logical-=
a
> rch-folsom.png   A picture is worth a thousand words :)  Anyhow, this
> translates to longer POCs and longer integration cycles, so while =
that's
> great for integrators, it's not so wonderful for the end customer.
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> Scalable vs. non-scalable
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> I may need to be updated on this but I think OpenStack's Nova can only
> support ~ 500 physical hosts.  This may have increased in Grizzly but =
not
> sure.  Anyhow, Apache CloudStack (ACS) can scale ~ 5K hosts per =
management
> server.  In addition, ACS is horizontally scalable so just keep adding =
as
> you need to and load balance the Management servers.
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> Two workloads
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> Apache CloudStack can support not only the newer "Amazon style"
> architectures but also traditional architectures generally deployed on
> VMware vSphere.   OpenStack is focused on the "Amazon style" only.
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> AWS EC2 Compatibility
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> Both Apache CloudStack & Eucalyptus have emphasized AWS EC2 API =
fidelity.
> One can use either the CloudStack API or EC2 API so there's a choice.
> OpenStack has its own API that's different.  Some of that may be
> historical as Rackspace is competing with AWS.  However, there has not
> been an emphasis in the OpenStack community to support EC2.   We all =
know
> Amazon is the 800lb gorilla!
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> Maturity
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> OpenStack is making excellent strides in this department but maturity
> happens over years.  Apache CloudStack has a history that dates back =
to
> 2008 when a startup called VMOps set out to provide software for =
companies
> to build their own Amazon like clouds.   VMOps bought the name =
cloud.com,
> and then in 2011, Citrix bought cloud.com.   Over the years, the =
product
> matured and Citrix alone has over 150 paying customers that have used =
the
> software to build IaaS clouds.   In 2012, the software was donated to =
the
> Apache Software Foundation & it graduated in March 2013 as a full =
fledged,
> top level project.=20
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> Again, OpenStack has a number of big name vendors spending a massive
> amount of money to promote it.   The difference with CloudStack is =
that it
> is much more of a member/user driven community rather.
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> Extra Bonus:
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> I'd suggest reading this article as well:
> =
http://www.datamation.com/cloud-computing/is-cloudstack-more-enterprise-re=
a
> dy-than-openstack-1.html  Both Chris & Ilya from WebMD frequent the
> mailing lists.=20
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> Hope this helps!
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> Best,
> Kelly
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> On 6/21/13 12:20 PM, "Prodosh Banerjee" <p.banerjee@anolim.com> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> A potential client is looking for a comparison between CloudStack and
>> OpenStack. So far, I came up with the following:
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>> =
http://www.cloudops.com/2013/06/cloudstack-vs-openstack-a-personal-experie=

>> nce/
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>> I was wondering if you had any more or better suggestions?
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>> This is useful information for all of us who are trying to sell
>> CloudStack based solutions and it might be useful to have a package =
of
>> such information in circulation for all of us to use.
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>> Thanks in advance and best regards
>> Prodosh
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>> Prodosh Banerjee
>> Managing Partner, Anolim GmbH
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>> Tel: +41 43 541 5704
>> Email: p.banerjee@anolim.com
>> Web: http://anolim.com
>> Skype: p.banerjee
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>> Alte Landstrasse 64
>> 8800 Thalwil
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