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From Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RESULTS][SUMMARY][DISCUSS][VOTE] List CloudStack related books on the website
Date Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:05:55 GMT
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Chip Childers
<chip.childers@sungard.com>wrote:

> Adding Rohit via his a.o address.
>

Thanks, yes please refrain from using my old/new corporate email addresses.

I'll stick to my initial vote and would propose listing the books on the
wiki immediately.

Cheers.



>  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 02:52:31PM -0400, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
> > Ilya, Rohit, Joe, Noah,
> >
> > I am re-sending this with you in CC to make sure you read it.
> >
> > Since there was little response the wiki link has been established
> already, but I would like to get feedback on explicitly modifying the
> bylaws to explain that marketing topics happen on the marketing list and
> that Lazy majority or Lazy 2/3 majority will be required.
> >
> > -sebastien
> >
> > On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <runseb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, (note only marketing@)
> > >
> > > Apologies for a belated wrap up of this important vote. Please reply
> in-line.
> > >
> > > [RESULTS]:
> > >
> > > +1 : 24 (Sebastien, Giles, Nguyen, Ryan, Kelly, Geoff, Roland, Alex,
> Nehal, Sapm4kev, Gaspare, Kelcey, José,OutbackDingo, Todd, Eric, David,
> Kimihiko, Radhika, Clayton, Chip, Chiradeep, Tariq, Mark)
> > >
> > >
> > > -0 : 2 (Noah, Joe also vote +0)
> > >
> > > -1: 2 (Rohit, Ilya)
> > >
> > > [SUMMARY]:
> > >
> > > Rohit would be +1 on listing in the wiki, Ilya would be +0 on listing
> in the wiki.
> > > So it seems that we would have unanimous consensus for listing on the
> wiki, even though there is a strong majority for the website.
> > >
> > > [DISCUSS]:
> > >
> > > I felt it was important to poll folks that are only on dev@ or users@and the
results show that some folks who have never voted, got engaged in
> this VOTE. This is a very positive side effect despite the confusion that I
> created by bcc all lists.
> > >
> > > Our bylaws [1] do not cover votes on non-technical matters, so while
> we have lazy majority on this vote it seems that this situation is not
> covered by the bylaws. Moreover section 3.1.1 of bylaws says that decisions
> on the project happen on dev@, so it seems that votes even on marketing@are not allowed
(unsure about this).
> > >
> > > I propose the following:
> > >
> > > 1-To move forward without having to re-cast a vote, I propose to list
> immediately the books on the Wiki, and inform Packt. I just created the
> page [2]
> > > 2- If people agree that we have a bylaw "loophole", we need to modify
> the bylaws to allow votes on marketing@ and agree on using Lazy majority
> or Lazy 2/3 majority.
> > >
> > > Once we agree, I will inform users@ and dev@ and invite folks who
> participated in this vote to join marketing@
> > >
> > > 3- We could then re-cast a vote to list on the website
> > >
> > > [1] http://cloudstack.apache.org/bylaws.html
> > > [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Books
> > >
> > > Ps: fwiw, I think this is overly complicated but the only way forward
> in the apache way.
> > >
> > > -Sebastien
> >
> >
>

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