Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cloudstack-marketing-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cloudstack-marketing-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D05A6DF18 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 20:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 69724 invoked by uid 500); 27 May 2013 20:48:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cloudstack-marketing-archive@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 69696 invoked by uid 500); 27 May 2013 20:48:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@cloudstack.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 69687 invoked by uid 99); 27 May 2013 20:48:58 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 May 2013 20:48:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-ie0-f181.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username nslater, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 May 2013 20:48:58 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x12so18623248ief.26 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 13:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=63CdC73g7qNwxKJ/tQHct6bFhLf+UejiI+1rSG8bkB0=; b=a9nOw49F4LwHSVBJ9+gNuy+IfZCvCI6wYh8w0yh5rcoPn3GZBSLtcPv1H4QrXqGfAF BhNknn6BrgwYkWyAiTM/O9ealpxQtWG/TAcRL6z3egzPA5fnpuTqbmugYJBPNRNzIQcG 6jhoEZwzETnaYCyVv/hF+BNQS2ycTCatsGjsB4Z1JtduTdMPf+nqHiQOm74K9FAKg4qO 9iD9Qpp5GCjwsW30hLkmcZVzW136gLTYrfi5a2MNB9HFf8grVOfAUykBl9noYnEH/0tO l+jMXfuvER2Dw0jBC4oTr8jiocq8P0ux+e4kSh3Cn6ziWB1xM2fGVrr02pMkxdGbptPZ X3bw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.83.102 with SMTP id p6mr5462273igy.45.1369687737529; Mon, 27 May 2013 13:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.8.68 with HTTP; Mon, 27 May 2013 13:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [178.250.115.206] In-Reply-To: References: <910F3643-F01C-4535-902A-60D29EC6BA31@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 21:48:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] List CloudStack related books on the website From: Noah Slater To: "dev@cloudstack.apache.org" Cc: "marketing@cloudstack.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0111bce20cab3904ddb9473c X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm44DT5ENMx5GeOArTeQseJswgeRslU0tUOXg7mJYNeds0HgBrJ/J6OvDO4rO/BAG5Nu3sX --089e0111bce20cab3904ddb9473c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As a committer you have a binding vote. However, our by-laws do not make it clear what sort of decision-making process we use for non-technical matters such as this. So I am not sure whether your -1 counts as a veto. On 27 May 2013 19:14, Rohit Yadav wrote: > -1 list of books etc. on website (binding, if committers are allowed to do > that). > > The list should be on the project wiki and not on the website. > Even if we have the right intention, the website should ought not be seen > as platform of promoting anything other than the materials published within > Apache CloudStack, which means promoting anything which means books, > goodies and things of that sort. > > What we can do is create a wiki on things about CloudStack, which we > already have and in the education/how-to section add list of books related > to CloudStack or cloud computing, but on the wiki and not on the website. > > Cheers. > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Sebastien Goasguen >wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > After a relatively long discussion on the marketing@ list about the > > "Packt Book" [1] I would like to call a vote. > > > > Proposal: > > ---------------- > > I propose to list CloudStack related books on our website [2]. The page > > listing these books would contain the following disclaimer: > > > > "This listing does not represent official endorsement by the Apache > > CloudStack project. The Apache CloudStack project does not recommend one > > book versus another nor does it guarantee the quality of the books." > > > > Inclusion of a book in the listing would be done via a vote on the > > marketing@ list. > > ---------------- > > > > As a quick summary, alternatives to this proposal were to: > > 1-not do anything > > 2-list the books on the wiki > > > > A few of us have already expressed their opinions and discussed the > > possibilities. Check [1]. > > > > Vote will be open for 96 hours (To accommodate Memorial day in the USA). > > > > Reply with: > > > > [ ] +1 approve > > [ ] +0 no opinion > > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > > > PS: If edits of the disclaimer are needed but that they do not change the > > meaning of it, the disclaimer will be modified but the vote will not be > > restarted. > > > > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/r4qdmbonmx6yq2uv > > [2] http://cloudstack.apache.org > > > > -Sebastien > -- NS --089e0111bce20cab3904ddb9473c--