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From Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Packt Book - Publish on our website?
Date Thu, 23 May 2013 06:06:37 GMT

On May 22, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:

> In general, we should be wary about making endorsements. I've not had much
> experience with this at the ASF, but I know that as an organisation, we
> seem to be quite reticent about it. I guess the reasons boil down to: if
> you endorse one person, project, book, etc then lots of other people are
> going to clamour for endorsement. Which leads us to our second problem,
> endorsing things implies we don't endorse other things, which could leave
> people feeling upset and "out of the club". If we had a wiki page with a

Let me put it bluntly. IMHO wiki pages are a death sentence, nobody will find that information.
If it's not featured on the website then there is no point talking about it.


> list of third-party CloudStack resources/books/etc, then people can add to
> it as they see fit. I think it should be obvious that this is a community
> maintained resource, and not an official project edict. (Caveat: we will
> have to monitor this page for spam and too much blatant self-promotion or
> advertising.)
> 
> 
> On 22 May 2013 22:44, Kelcey Jamison Damage <kelcey@bbits.ca> wrote:
> 
>> I simply meant as an OSS community I do not want us to be perceived as
>> cherry picking 3rd party content we display, with out a public criteria.
>> That way there is no negative blowback.
>> 
>> IE: we publish our selection criteria.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Kinsella" <jlk@stratosec.co>
>> To: "<marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>" <marketing@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:38:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: Packt Book - Publish on our website?
>> 
>> Endorsements are something somebody does on their blog. I don't think
>> presence on the ACS page has anything to do with that (and should be noted
>> clearly - same as for classes, whatever).
>> 
>> Another reason this could be good - being able to list one or more books
>> on the site shows a level of maturity that both folks are starting to write
>> thicker documents about ACS, and also that publishers feel there's a market
>> for such a product.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On May 22, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage <kelcey@bbits.ca
>> <mailto:kelcey@bbits.ca>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with Noah,
>> 
>> We have to take the good with the bad otherwise we are inadvertently
>> endorsing specific works as an organization.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Noah Slater" <nslater@apache.org<mailto:nslater@apache.org>>
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:55:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Packt Book - Publish on our website?
>> 
>> The minute we do that though, we start to endorse third-party works, and
>> that is a can of worms.
>> 
>> 
>> On 22 May 2013 20:50, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net<mailto:jzb@zonker.net>>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, May 20, 2013, at 10:37 PM, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
>> This strikes me as being along the same lines as having a nascar-esqe
>> badging page. IMO the more books, the merrier. No specific endorsements.
>> 
>> The flip side of this is that many tech books these days are truly
>> awful. I'd rather point to books we actually recommend and feel are
>> accurate than just drive traffic to any CloudStack title.
>> 
>> (I spent quite a lot of time reviewing tech books years ago, and there's
>> a very, very wide variance in quality out there.)
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net<mailto:jzb@zonker.net>
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> NS
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> NS


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