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From Chip Childers <>
Subject Re: cloudstack survey [discuss]
Date Fri, 31 May 2013 15:24:12 GMT
Good work Giles.

I have two *minor* changes to the text of the questions:

For (1), the "We would be happy to participate in further marketing
activities to help support Cloudstack" option is confusingly unrelated
to the other 3 options.

For (7), please remove the "Apache" portion of the product names for 2.x
and 3.x.  Those versions are pre-Apache.  I think you can get away with
not adding "" or "Citrix" to those versions.

As for the results, I would like a raw result dump to be sent to so that we have a record of it within the
private archives.  Other than that, IMO you are good to go with it.  I
think that you'll probably need to do the paid month, or be restricted to 100


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 09:50:34AM +0000, Giles Sirett wrote:
> All
> I have *tried* to take on board all comments and come up with this new version
> please look at the survey  before you comment
> I've kept it still to 10 questions as IMO, it needs to be short.
> I've no  objection to adding more if people feel strongly (I'm quite happy to spend the
$24) , but I'd just like to keep the overall number down in order to maximise responses.
> There have been a few  suggestions for new questions around:
> 1. industry vertical
> 2. Release cycle
> 3. community support
> 4. WHY people chose ACS
> If people feel strongly that those questions should be included, then can they post onlist
the exact question (and responses) that  they wish to ask (and maybe *why* its important to
ask that). I'd like those to be agreed here before I re-edit
> Also, if anybody feels that any of the questions  could be dropped, then say so (so I
can try to keep the numbers down)
> Theres also been some comments around providing more structure to some of the responses
(i.e. list features that people may want to see instead of just a text box)
> I agree with that concept 100%, BUT from experience, creating and agreeing such choices
becomes a project in itself. For every one that somebody thinks of, somebody else will have
something different or will want them worded differently.   I therefore think that the free
text style is a sensible compromise.
> I've tried to get a balance on collecting org name,etc: its optional, but I encourage
 people to provide if possible
> OK, so I (Giles) am collecting this on behalf of the community. Its sat in a surveymonkey
account linked to my email address (i.e its nothing to do with my company)
> As previously, the community has my commitment that this data is SOLELY to be used for
this survey.
> Once we've collected responses, I intend to de-duplicate and cross reference other known
installs (from Marks slide & any  other sources available)
> I will produce summarised, anonymous results for public distribution.
> To verify this process, I'd like to ask a committer (hint: Sebastien) to work on that
with me on the analysis. I will share access to the  sureveymonkey account with that committer,
but will not post on this public list
> Once we've done the analysis, we will destroy the source data
> Only exception to this: if people say that they ARE happy for us to mention their names,
then I suggest that we write to them afterwards to check that they are authorised to do so,etc
> If anybody is uncomfortable with that process, then say so. I would like to *try* and
get this closed out today
> Kind Regards
> Giles
> D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier []
> Sent: 30 May 2013 20:21
> To:
> Subject: Re: cloudstack survey [discuss]
> On Thu, May 30, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Chip Childers wrote:
> > My concern about user info is that we are going to ask as many people
> > as possible to answer the survey.  I agree a bit about a desire to
> > de-dupe the company names...  But I would *not* assume that the
> > individuals that may offer this are authorized to be public about
> > their use of the software.  If we end up collecting them (for the
> > record, I'm +0 on collecting *just* organization name), I'd state in
> > absolute terms that the names are not shared on any public list (including this
> +1
> > As for vertical, I think we would be OK with that being asked (and
> > it's a good idea).
> Yes, that's a good question to ask.
> Another that we're currently missing is install size. If you're using CloudStack is it
20 nodes, or 20,000?
> Best,
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> Twitter: @jzb
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