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From "Kelcey Damage \(BT\)" <>
Subject RE: Weekly News Items?
Date Thu, 02 May 2013 17:51:39 GMT
+1 here! 

It's very nice to have news that is not coupled with endorsement.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chip Childers []
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:48 AM
>Subject: Re: Weekly News Items?
>On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 05:38:46PM +0000, Giles Sirett wrote:
>> Chip, I've been very clear, this *is* a commercial offering, we will be
>money. ShapeBlue makes its money out of services around Cloudstack. This is
>what we do to feed our kids.
>> These courses have been in development for some time, we have invested
>> time & money  in creating a structured course with classroom & online
>version and also a whole set of hands-on labs. To be frank, I would expect
>*some* degree of support from the community on this. I'm taking a
>commercial risk, creating something that that surely can only help ACS long
>term I have offered/donated  20% of the places on the Santa Clara course to
>the community free of charge.
>> I am really  trying   to make sure that we respect the rules & governance
>the project (which I have to do carefully as we are a vendor  who primarily
>about CloudStack). I think we've always managed to do that (if we haven't,
>would like to be told).
>> However, if there is a training course being run in our technology , then
>people should know about it; and it SHOULD be in a weekly news update IMO.
>> If the course was being run by somebody else, I would say the same
thing.; I
>would want to know about it.  We should not refuse to mention it because
>somebody is making some money out of it.
>> I am not asking for endorsement, I am asking  to help communicate
>that people may find useful & want to purchase.
>I want to be *very* clear that I'm not against community support for what
>are doing.  The specific concern I had was about "endorsement" of a
>commercial "service" and the implication it would have for how we would
>commercial "product" announcements.
>However, looking back through past discussions on this topic, I believe the
>overriding point is that as long as we are consistent and open about
>there are no problems.  As stated, this is a pointer to something.
>In fact, I think that we should consider pointing to product announcements
>include CloudStack news as well (example: we could have pointed to
> when it was announced).
>I'll sit down now...  +1 for adding it.
>Thanks for being patient as I got through my own muddled thoughts in full
>of everyone... ;-)

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