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From Noah Slater <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Website - CloudStack Collaboration Conference NA '13
Date Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:34:00 GMT
I've not been involved in many conferences related to Apache products, so
my advice here is not representative of policy. Just what seems like might
be a good idea based on what I know.

Ideally, the plans for this conference would have been run past the
CloudStack PMC, ConCom, and Brand before we went live with it. Conferences
need approval from these groups. But what's done is done.

However, it might be a good idea to run it past them now, as we do need to
establish that approval retroactively.

Perhaps send a message to, CCing, detailing the ways in which you are using
the Apache CloudStack trademarks, and the steps you have taken to make sure
they are used responsibly.

Perhaps send a message to, CCing, detailing the plans for the conference. (I
am not sure what specific information ConCom are looking for. But see Ross
Gardler's recent thread on for more context. For
smaller events it looks like this sort of thing is not important, but
ConCom certainly need to be involved for any conference level events.)

There's an active thread about how PMC oversight works for trademarks and
events and what have you, that I haven't followed up on yet. (Sorry about
that.) But until we have something ratified, I am assuming that approval
for things like this can be done via lazy consensus. i.e. This thread, and
two separates threads as detailed above, copying the PMC, should be enough.
(Assuming nobody raises objections within 72 hours.)

Chip, or anyone else from the PMC, feel free to correct me on any of this!

On 20 April 2013 21:37, David Nalley <> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Karen Vuong <>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The website for the CloudStack Collaboration Conference North America
> 2013 went up yesterday. Registration will open on Monday, April 22nd at
> 9:00am PT.
> >
> > You may take a look at the website here:
> >
> > I've requested for the web team to change the logo to the current Apache
> CloudStack logo and that will be done before Monday 9:00am.
> >
> > I would welcome any feedback or suggestions . Thanks!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Karen
> >
> Hi Karen:
> In general it looks great.
> So you are using the Apache CloudStack logo - and if you continue to
> do so, that will need to link to [1] That
> said, it may be better to develop a cloudstack collab conference logo
> instead. [5] The Hadoop cons seem to run afoul of this, but CouchDB
> and Cassandra cons do not. If you really want to use the logo, we
> probably need to loop in trademarks@.
> I'd personally prefer a footer that says 'Apache, CloudStack, Apache
> CloudStack, and the Cloud Monkey are trademarks or registered
> trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation' See Hadoop World's
> footer for an example. [2]
> I know we don't yet have a sponsor listing up yet, but we need to
> ensure that the ASF is listed as a community partner [3]
> We need to add a paragraph that explains what Apache CloudStack is at
> a minimum to the About page, but preferably also to the landing page.
> That paragraph should include a brief description of Apache
> CloudStack. This must also include a link back to the Apache project's
> home page, linked from the "Apache CloudStack" wording. [4]
> --David
> [1]
> [2]
> [3]
> [4]
> [5]


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