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From Pierre-Luc Bisaillon <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Website Mock-Up #2
Date Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:08:10 GMT

Re: flow. I did another review of recent posts and I did find a similar
post from Mark (pasted below) but no consensus. I will put something
together and share. Maybe on this page?

Re: case studies. I think this warrants further discussion (separate
thread?). Do we agree that the main purpose here is to get as many people
to use CloudStack? If so, then are we afraid by the fact that some people
would shy away from CloudStack if they see corporate influence? But don't
we think that *more* people would be convinced of using it if they did see
case studies?

[previous comments from Mark]
- Prospects - Potential users that come to and want to learn
screenshots, feature list, video webcast, case studies of successful users
- User - Resources for users including user guides, documentation, support
mechanisms, IRC logs etc.
- Developers - Users who want to extend or integrate with CloudStack
including developer guide, wiki links to integrated technologies (e.g.
Puppet Manifests, Chef Cookbooks, Nagios Plugins, etc.)

I think that should be a design point should lead each type of user down
the path. Right now we provide a smorgasbord and users of the site pick
their own adventure. Perhaps we should be more prescriptive to help
improve their success.  I know Sonny floated a design already but I don't
think it addressed these points specifically. Maybe we could take the
feedback from this thread and have him do a rough wire frame and critique
it to get to where we need to be.

Take care,


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Joe Brockmeier <> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013, at 01:02 PM, Pierre-Luc Bisaillon wrote:
> > 2. Joe I know there is a risk of bias in putting case studies here vs.
> > the wiki, but is there an opportunity to define a framework for review?
> We've had discussions on this previously, and the consensus was we'd not
> want to get into trying to define this, if I recall correctly.
> But if you think you can define a framework that makes sense, I'd
> encourage you to propose that and raise the discussion in a new thread
> so everybody can weigh in. Maybe there's a way to do it and we can
> achieve consensus on it. What we don't want to do is keep raising the
> question every time we talk about the site - so if we could have the
> discussion in a well-defined way and come to a consensus now, that'd be
> excellent.
> > CloudStack has impressive success stories but I think they are not told
> > enough. Are you worried about actual corporate influence or the
> > *appearance* of corporate influence?
> Both. :-) Sometimes the appearance of influence is just as bad. Being a
> project that started out from a single entity means you have to work
> pretty hard to shake that perception.
> Best,
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> Twitter: @jzb

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