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From David Nalley <>
Subject Re: [New post] CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level Project
Date Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:47:06 GMT
You can't really - all you can do is ask politely.


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Kelly Hair <> wrote:
> Since anyone can subscribe to Apache mailing lists, how do you normally
> keep news from flowing out prematurely?  I was scratching my head on that
> one.
> On 3/22/13 11:42 AM, "David Nalley" <> wrote:
>>wondering the same thing here.
>>Very surprised.
>>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Sally Khudairi <> wrote:
>>> Really?!
>>> This announcement is _under embargo_ until Monday. Yet I just received
>>>this from one of our "friendlies" :-(
>>> How did this leak happen? I'm really not happy about this.
>>> -Sally
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>>>From: [REDACTED]
>>>>Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013, 11:33
>>>>Subject: Fwd: [New post] CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level
>>>>Sally,   isn't this news under embargo until 25 March at 10 ET?
>>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>From: The Diversity Blog - SaaS, Cloud & Business Strategy
>>>>Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:13 AM
>>>>Subject: [New post] CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level Project
>>>>To: [REDACTED]
>>>>Ben Kepes posted: ""
>>>>New post on The Diversity Blog - SaaS, Cloud & Business Strategy
>>>> CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level Projectby Ben Kepes
>>>>Almost a year ago Citrix scored a coup when it¹s CloudStack product
>>>>(which itself was formerly the cloud operating system known as
>>>> was elevated to the cloud platform of the Apache foundation.
>>>>It was all the more interesting sine were founding members of
>>>>OpenStack and the war of words between CloudStack (in particular it¹s
>>>>colorful marketing head Peder Ulander) and the OpenStack community has
>>>>given those of us in the gallery much to chuckle about since then ­ if
>>>>nothing else it¹s been great popcorn fodder.
>>>>While it¹s fair to say that CloudStack had the high ground early on in
>>>>terms of on-the-ground adoption with enterprises, it¹s also fair to say
>>>>that OpenStack, with the massive buy in from big names vendors like HP,
>>>>IBM and Dell, won out on the attention measures. OpenStack was, from a
>>>>technical perspective, a little rough around the edges 12 months ago
>>>>but it¹s fair to say that the past year has seen it come along nicely
>>>>and the upcoming OpenStack summit will no doubt be a showcase of
>>>>enterprise adoption (disclosure ­ OpenStack is covering my T&E to
>>>>attend the OpenStack summit in Portland and as part of the summit I
>>>>have written a general open cloud report for the foundation). Much of
>>>>the criticism that OpenStack proponents have been able to level at
>>>>CloudStack has focused on its apparently limited contributor base ­ in
>>>>their minds, a project with support from essentially only one company
>>>>is never going to get the traction it needs to truly
>>>  become an accepted standard.
>>>>Which is why the announcement that the Apache Software Foundation is
>>>>promoting CloudStack to a top level project next week is so important ­
>>>>to qualify as a TLP, an initiative needs to have proven a well
>>>>developed community, strong governance and, by definition, widespread
>>>>According to Chip Childers, Vic President of Apahe CloudStack, the
>>>>foundation¹s work since adoption has focused on growing a strong
>>>>community around the code and ensuring the governance is robust. As a
>>>>thinly veiled criticism of some previous dramatic and unhappy
>>>>happenings in the OpenStack community, Childers went on to say that:
>>>>Šwe've managed to build a diverse, friendly and very open community
>>>>around CloudStack. New participants receive a really warm welcome and
>>>>we  make sure that all contributors are on an equal footing, whether
>>>>they are writing code or helping with any other aspect of the project.
>>>>Anybody thinking of getting involved in the project would quickly find
>>>>what a great community we are
>>>>In terms of how the project actually works - Apache CloudStack software
>>>>is released under the Apache License v2.0, and is overseen by a
>>>>self-selected team of active contributors to the project. A Project
>>>>Management Committee (PMC) guides the Project's day-to-day operations,
>>>>including community development and product releases. Apache CloudStack
>>>>source code, documentation, mailing lists, and related resources are
>>>>available at
>>>>The key thing here though is just how wise the developer community to
>>>>CloudStack is. The foundation reports that as of today the initiative
>>>>boasts some 440 developers and, in the most important metric of all,
>>>>only 32% of those developers are from Citrix. That¹s a positive
>>>>statistic and should give the CloudStack fans cause for cheers. While
>>>>CloudStack has some loyal customer however, it¹s hard to see how
>>>>they¹ll manage to push through the OpenStack juggernaut ­ time will
>>>>tell how that all shakes downŠ
>>>>Ben Kepes | March 22, 2013 at 10:13 am | Tags: Apache foundation,
>>>>Citrix,, CloudStack, Dell, IBM, OpenStack, Peder Ulander |
>>>>Categories: Business | URL:
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