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From Sally Khudairi <>
Subject Re: [New post] CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level Project
Date Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:50:20 GMT
Wait a minute. The CloudStack marketing lists are public?
This is why we traditionally only work with the IPMCs on news items.

Hey ho. Cat's out of the bag.


> From: David Nalley <>
>Cc: Sally Khudairi <>; 
>Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013, 11:47
>Subject: Re: [New post] CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level Project
>You can't really - all you can do is ask politely.
>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Kelly Hair <> wrote:
>> Since anyone can subscribe to Apache mailing lists, how do you normally
>> keep news from flowing out prematurely?  I was scratching my head on that
>> one.
>> On 3/22/13 11:42 AM, "David Nalley" <> wrote:
>>>wondering the same thing here.
>>>Very surprised.
>>>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Sally Khudairi <> wrote:
>>>> Really?!
>>>> This announcement is _under embargo_ until Monday. Yet I just received
>>>>this from one of our "friendlies" :-(
>>>> How did this leak happen? I'm really not happy about this.
>>>> -Sally
>>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>>>>From: [REDACTED]
>>>>>Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013, 11:33
>>>>>Subject: Fwd: [New post] CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level
>>>>>Sally,   isn't this news under embargo until 25 March at 10 ET?
>>>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>From: The Diversity Blog - SaaS, Cloud & Business Strategy
>>>>>Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:13 AM
>>>>>Subject: [New post] CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level Project
>>>>>To: [REDACTED]
>>>>>Ben Kepes posted: ""
>>>>>New post on The Diversity Blog - SaaS, Cloud & Business Strategy
>>>>> CloudStack Graduates to an Apache Top Level Projectby Ben Kepes
>>>>>Almost a year ago Citrix scored a coup when it¹s CloudStack product
>>>>>(which itself was formerly the cloud operating system known as
>>>>> was elevated to the cloud platform of the Apache foundation.
>>>>>It was all the more interesting sine were founding members of
>>>>>OpenStack and the war of words between CloudStack (in particular it¹s
>>>>>colorful marketing head Peder Ulander) and the OpenStack community has
>>>>>given those of us in the gallery much to chuckle about since then ­ if
>>>>>nothing else it¹s been great popcorn fodder.
>>>>>While it¹s fair to say that CloudStack had the high ground early on in
>>>>>terms of on-the-ground adoption with enterprises, it¹s also fair to say
>>>>>that OpenStack, with the massive buy in from big names vendors like HP,
>>>>>IBM and Dell, won out on the attention measures. OpenStack was, from a
>>>>>technical perspective, a little rough around the edges 12 months ago
>>>>>but it¹s fair to say that the past year has seen it come along nicely
>>>>>and the upcoming OpenStack summit will no doubt be a showcase of
>>>>>enterprise adoption (disclosure ­ OpenStack is covering my T&E to
>>>>>attend the OpenStack summit in Portland and as part of the summit I
>>>>>have written a general open cloud report for the foundation). Much of
>>>>>the criticism that OpenStack proponents have been able to level at
>>>>>CloudStack has focused on its apparently limited contributor base ­ in
>>>>>their minds, a project with support from essentially only one company
>>>>>is never going to get the traction it needs to truly
>>>>  become an accepted standard.
>>>>>Which is why the announcement that the Apache Software Foundation is
>>>>>promoting CloudStack to a top level project next week is so important
>>>>>to qualify as a TLP, an initiative needs to have proven a well
>>>>>developed community, strong governance and, by definition, widespread
>>>>>According to Chip Childers, Vic President of Apahe CloudStack, the
>>>>>foundation¹s work since adoption has focused on growing a strong
>>>>>community around the code and ensuring the governance is robust. As a
>>>>>thinly veiled criticism of some previous dramatic and unhappy
>>>>>happenings in the OpenStack community, Childers went on to say that:
>>>>>Šwe've managed to build a diverse, friendly and very open community
>>>>>around CloudStack. New participants receive a really warm welcome and
>>>>>we  make sure that all contributors are on an equal footing, whether
>>>>>they are writing code or helping with any other aspect of the project.
>>>>>Anybody thinking of getting involved in the project would quickly find
>>>>>what a great community we are
>>>>>In terms of how the project actually works - Apache CloudStack software
>>>>>is released under the Apache License v2.0, and is overseen by a
>>>>>self-selected team of active contributors to the project. A Project
>>>>>Management Committee (PMC) guides the Project's day-to-day operations,
>>>>>including community development and product releases. Apache CloudStack
>>>>>source code, documentation, mailing lists, and related resources are
>>>>>available at
>>>>>The key thing here though is just how wise the developer community to
>>>>>CloudStack is. The foundation reports that as of today the initiative
>>>>>boasts some 440 developers and, in the most important metric of all,
>>>>>only 32% of those developers are from Citrix. That¹s a positive
>>>>>statistic and should give the CloudStack fans cause for cheers. While
>>>>>CloudStack has some loyal customer however, it¹s hard to see how
>>>>>they¹ll manage to push through the OpenStack juggernaut ­ time will
>>>>>tell how that all shakes downŠ
>>>>>Ben Kepes | March 22, 2013 at 10:13 am | Tags: Apache foundation,
>>>>>Citrix,, CloudStack, Dell, IBM, OpenStack, Peder Ulander |
>>>>>Categories: Business | URL:
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