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Subject [jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-8580) Users should be able to expunge VMs
Date Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:59:08 GMT

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ASF GitHub Bot commented on CLOUDSTACK-8580:
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Github user wilderrodrigues commented on the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/593#issuecomment-124075403
  
    Creating 2 VMs via cloudmonkey
    
    (local) 🐵 > deploy virtualmachine displayname=isovm networkids=61fb9ffe-cf5e-4a09-9470-e0800685f74d
templateid=2853716f-311a-11e5-b59a-5254001daa61 zoneid=38d556a7-39e5-4b70-9ce2-9bed1a16abc5
 serviceofferingid=5ffbfb25-7df3-4b00-b053-cda67b5b46a9 
    
    (local) 🐵 > deploy virtualmachine displayname=isovm2 networkids=61fb9ffe-cf5e-4a09-9470-e0800685f74d
templateid=2853716f-311a-11e5-b59a-5254001daa61 zoneid=38d556a7-39e5-4b70-9ce2-9bed1a16abc5
 serviceofferingid=5ffbfb25-7df3-4b00-b053-cda67b5b46a9 
    
    Destroying 1 VM via cloudmonkey (no expunge)
    
    (local) 🐵 > destroy virtualmachine id=ecaeb2f4-27fa-4d40-8a72-762232f17cc4 
    
    Recovering 1 VM via cloudmonkey
    
    (local) 🐵 > recover virtualmachine id=ecaeb2f4-27fa-4d40-8a72-762232f17cc4
    
    Starting 1 VM via cloudmonkey
    
    (local) 🐵 > start virtualmachine id=ecaeb2f4-27fa-4d40-8a72-762232f17cc4
    
    ![image](https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/5129209/8849745/74b08848-3142-11e5-9cd4-057593cec312.png)
    
    Destroying 1 VM via cloudmonkey (expunge)
    
    (local) 🐵 > destroy virtualmachine id=ecaeb2f4-27fa-4d40-8a72-762232f17cc4 expunge=true
    
    ![image](https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/5129209/8849803/e005372e-3142-11e5-8015-01918f6560c8.png)
    
    All L-super-GTM :+1: 
    
    Merging... :)


> Users should be able to expunge VMs
> -----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CLOUDSTACK-8580
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8580
>             Project: CloudStack
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>      Security Level: Public(Anyone can view this level - this is the default.) 
>            Reporter: Lennert den Teuling
>            Priority: Minor
>
> When automating deployments of CloudStack (with for example Terraform) there are situations
where VMs get recreated with the same name (and hostname). When VMs are destroyed by a user,
the name will be reserved on the network until the VM truly gets expunged (depending on expunge.delay).
Because of this, some automation tools cannot work because a new deployment with the same
name gives an error.  
> Users do not have the ability to directly expunge VMs (Only admin and domain-admins can),
but they can destroy them and the admin can configure the expunge.delay where VMs truly get
removed (expunged). 
> Working with the expunge delay is very safe in case users accidentally remove a VM, but
in some cases (when users know what they are doing) there should also be a option to completely
remove the VM when destroying it (expunge). 
> Ideally the admin should be able to configure this behavior trough the global settings,
cause i believe the admin deliberately needs to turn it on (off by default).
> We have looked into making our clients domain-admin by default, but that gives them abilities
we do not want to give, so we see no other way then just enabling expunge for the user. 



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