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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:18:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: "ilya b. musayev (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org>
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Subject: [jira] [Commented] (CLOUDSTACK-3163) KVM Virtual Router startup
 time is painfully long
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ilya b. musayev commented on CLOUDSTACK-3163:
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Marcus, 

Then alternative, perhaps we can consider pushing this into 4.2 and
master.  4.1.1 - bad idea on my part, 4.1 in general - dont know.

While you rewrote the logic, with some enhancement/feature addition, you
addressed the existing issue with a better logic/code. 

Thanks for working on this,

Regards,
ilya


> KVM Virtual Router startup time is painfully long
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CLOUDSTACK-3163
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-3163
>             Project: CloudStack
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: Public(Anyone can view this level - this is the default.) 
>          Components: KVM
>    Affects Versions: pre-4.0.0
>         Environment: CloudPlatform 3.0.3, but I don't see any changes to the relevant code (I think) on master
>            Reporter: Andrew Bayer
>            Priority: Critical
>
> When you've got a couple thousand instances, spread across 10 or so pods, virtual router startup time is near crippling - actually, if you don't enable the option to have virtual routers only populated with instances in their pod, it *is* crippling, in that the virtual routers don't finish starting before the management server decides they've timed out and tries to start a new one.
> This seems to be the result of a few painful inefficiencies:
> - The same codepath is followed whether you're adding a new instance to an already running VR, or adding two hundred already running instances to a new VR. So each ssh/scp/sed/cp/chmod/etc command is replicated for each instance, rather than finding efficiencies by doing things across the whole set of instances. 
> - But what really eats up the time is the population of vm data - for each piece of vm data (which, from a rough look at the code, seems to be something like 10 or 11 data files), there are something like 7 ssh calls and an scp call. So that means that per instance, we have somewhere around 80 to 90 ssh/scp calls, plus the single ssh call for dhcp_entry.sh. So with 200 instances, that's 1600 to 1800 ssh/scp calls on a single VR, with all the overhead entailed in opening that many ssh connections, starting bash, etc, etc... Given that in my experience, a VR with ~200 instances takes ~90 minutes to start up (I may be misremembering slightly - it could be ~200 instances takes closer to 60 minutes, and ~300 takes closer to 90), that works out to 3 seconds or so per ssh/scp, which doesn't seem implausible to me. 
> So, this shouldn't be this way. At a minimum, there's no reason not to offload the whole process from a script run on the host making repeated ssh calls to the VR to a script on the VR that gets called from the host, albeit possibly a temporary one that's generated on the fly and copied over to the VR. That alone would probably save most of the VR startup time, just by dropping the number of ssh/scp connections per instance from 80-90 to 3 (dhcp_entry.sh call, scp of temporary script, execution of temporary script).

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