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From Sven Vogel <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
Date Thu, 22 Aug 2019 19:31:00 GMT
Hey Guys,

I don’t understand the problem. I don’t like slack too but I don’t like mailing list
or  neither. I think the first one is closed and slow. For me is an mailing list or irc also
not the wisdom final conclusion but hey do we have a better one? No.

If IRC is death drop it. If we don’t want slack drop it. leave ONLY the mailing list until
there we get an better interactive technology, maybe open source.



Sven Vogel
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> Am 22.08.2019 um 20:28 schrieb Andrija Panic <>:
> My whole idea is that having one (IRC) marketed on web pages, while using
> the other silently (Slack) makes less than zero sense to me.
> And, for me, a tool is a tool, I'm not married to it (some people prefer vi
> editor and have religious attachments to it, I just use nano to get the job
> done)
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:49 Nux! <> wrote:
>> I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions.
>> I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even
>> more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my
>> heart.
>> Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but
>> because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for
>> Slack.
>> We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the
>> archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide helpful
>> information to everyone.
>> I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress",
>> but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it.
>> My 2p
>> ---
>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>> On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
>>> ) that we use atm, AND since there
>>> seems
>>> to be an official ASF slack channel at, I
>>> would
>>> like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
>>> marketing
>>> this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
>>> channel
>>> on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good)
>>> all
>>> others chat channels.
>>> i.e. on this year conference page ( we
>>> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
>>> pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so
>>> the
>>> users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
>>> Suggestions, opinions ?
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrija Panić
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