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From Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
Date Fri, 23 Aug 2019 11:44:51 GMT
All,

I think email is the more persistent form of communication and it must continue to be the
default communication mechanism for the project dev+user+etc.

For a more real-time/transient communication, IRC or slack are good tools. I don't have any
preference on either, as I'm not an active user on either of them. It just happened that someone
asked me to join the-asf slack for some other group, and I saw many projects having their
channels there and I made a comment about it on our current apachecloudstack community slack
which is outside of the-asf group. I've got both of them setup on my desktop slack now, if
it's too difficult to migrate everyone from the old slack group to the-asf slack group, let's
continue as is; or perhaps add an IRC-gateway between the two.


Regards,

Rohit Yadav

Software Architect, ShapeBlue

https://www.shapeblue.com

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From: Sven Vogel <S.Vogel@ewerk.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 01:01
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
Cc: Nux! <nux@li.nux.ro>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

Hey Guys,

I don’t understand the problem. I don’t like slack too but I don’t like mailing list
or  neither. I think the first one is closed and slow. For me is an mailing list or irc also
not the wisdom final conclusion but hey do we have a better one? No.

If IRC is death drop it. If we don’t want slack drop it. leave ONLY the mailing list until
there we get an better interactive technology, maybe open source.

Cheers


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> Am 22.08.2019 um 20:28 schrieb Andrija Panic <andrija.panic@gmail.com>:
>
> My whole idea is that having one (IRC) marketed on web pages, while using
> the other silently (Slack) makes less than zero sense to me.
>
> And, for me, a tool is a tool, I'm not married to it (some people prefer vi
> editor and have religious attachments to it, I just use nano to get the job
> done)
>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:49 Nux! <nux@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>>
>> I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions.
>>
>> I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even
>> more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my
>> heart.
>>
>> Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but
>> because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for
>> Slack.
>>
>>
>> We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the
>> archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide helpful
>> information to everyone.
>>
>> I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress",
>> but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it.
>>
>> My 2p
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>
>>> On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
>>> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there
>>> seems
>>> to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I
>>> would
>>> like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
>>> marketing
>>> this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
>>> channel
>>> on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good)
>>> all
>>> others chat channels.
>>>
>>> i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
>>> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
>>> pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so
>>> the
>>> users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
>>>
>>> Suggestions, opinions ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrija Panić
>>

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