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From Boris Stoyanov <boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Remove el6 support in future CloudStack versions (was Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14)
Date Tue, 21 May 2019 10:44:00 GMT
+1

—Bobby


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> On 21 May 2019, at 13:31, Wei ZHOU <ustcweizhou@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> -Wei
> 
> Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com> 于2019年5月21日周二 上午11:40写道:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for your feedback and discussions. From what we've discussed so
>> far, we've lazy consensus that nobody wants to use el6 or are limited to
>> upgrade to el7/el8 due to potential risks.
>> 
>> 
>> Moving forward I put forth the following for voting:
>> 
>> 
>> - Next minor/major releases (such as 4.11.3.0, 4.13.0.0) will be last ones
>> to support el6 packaging both for the management server and KVM host, but
>> users are discouraged from using them
>> 
>> - Next major release (4.13.0.0) will document in its release notes that
>> we'll stop supporting centos6/rhel6 packaging in future versions, i.e. 4.14
>> and onwards
>> 
>> - After 4.13.0.0 is released, we will remove el6 related specs, packaging
>> scripts etc. from the codebase in the master branch
>> 
>> 
>> [ ] +1 approve
>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>> 
>> 
>> ** PMCs kindly add binding to your votes, thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rohit Yadav
>> 
>> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
>> 
>> https://www.shapeblue.com
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Erik Weber <terbolous@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 19:32
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14
>> 
>> CentOS7 was released 5 years ago, upgrading is long overdue anyway.
>> Realistically the next CloudStack release won't be out the door for
>> another ~4-6 months either.
>> 
>> --
>> Erik
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:27 PM Ron Wheeler
>> <rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS
>>> 
>>> CentOS 6 EOL is 2020
>>> CentOS 7 EOL is 2024
>>> 
>>> 
>>> +1 for removing support for CentOS 6.
>>> 
>>> As Erik pointed out the sites running CentOS6 will have to move soon in
>>> any event and it is probably better to do it now when there is still a
>>> lot of current expertise and information available about how to do it
>>> and how to make any changes to applications.
>>> 
>>> Upgrading in a project that is under your control is usually easier than
>>> one forced on you by a security issue or an operational failure.
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> On 4/24/19 3:24 AM, Erik Weber wrote:
>>>> As an operations guy I can understand the want for future updates and
>>>> not upgrading, but with the release plan of RHEL/CentOS I don't find
>>>> it feasible.
>>>> 
>>>> RHEL6 is 8 years old (and is still running kernel 2.6!) and isn't
>>>> scheduled to be fully EOL until 2024.
>>>> 
>>>> It is true that upgrading requires some effort (and risk) from
>>>> operators, but this is work they eventually have to do anyway, so it's
>>>> not a matter of /if/ they have to do it, but rather when.
>>>> 
>>>> It is also true that current CloudStack releases should continue to
>>>> work, it's also possible that someone might back port future fixes to
>>>> a RHEL6 compatible fork (you're more than welcome to).
>>>> 
>>>> I'd vote +1 to remove support for el6 packaging.
>>>> 
>> 
>> rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com
>> www.shapeblue.com
>> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
>> @shapeblue
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

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