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From Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Remove el6 support in future CloudStack versions (was Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14)
Date Tue, 21 May 2019 12:17:47 GMT
+1

On 5/21/19 11:40 AM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> All,
> 
> 
> Thank you for your feedback and discussions. From what we've discussed so far, we've
lazy consensus that nobody wants to use el6 or are limited to upgrade to el7/el8 due to potential
risks.
> 
> 
> Moving forward I put forth the following for voting:
> 
> 
> - Next minor/major releases (such as 4.11.3.0, 4.13.0.0) will be last ones to support
el6 packaging both for the management server and KVM host, but users are discouraged from
using them
> 
> - Next major release (4.13.0.0) will document in its release notes that we'll stop supporting
centos6/rhel6 packaging in future versions, i.e. 4.14 and onwards
> 
> - After 4.13.0.0 is released, we will remove el6 related specs, packaging scripts etc.
from the codebase in the master branch
> 
> 
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> 
> 
> ** PMCs kindly add binding to your votes, thanks.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rohit Yadav
> 
> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
> 
> https://www.shapeblue.com
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Erik Weber <terbolous@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 19:32
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14
> 
> CentOS7 was released 5 years ago, upgrading is long overdue anyway.
> Realistically the next CloudStack release won't be out the door for
> another ~4-6 months either.
> 
> --
> Erik
> 
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:27 PM Ron Wheeler
> <rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>
>> According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS
>>
>> CentOS 6 EOL is 2020
>> CentOS 7 EOL is 2024
>>
>>
>> +1 for removing support for CentOS 6.
>>
>> As Erik pointed out the sites running CentOS6 will have to move soon in
>> any event and it is probably better to do it now when there is still a
>> lot of current expertise and information available about how to do it
>> and how to make any changes to applications.
>>
>> Upgrading in a project that is under your control is usually easier than
>> one forced on you by a security issue or an operational failure.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On 4/24/19 3:24 AM, Erik Weber wrote:
>>> As an operations guy I can understand the want for future updates and
>>> not upgrading, but with the release plan of RHEL/CentOS I don't find
>>> it feasible.
>>>
>>> RHEL6 is 8 years old (and is still running kernel 2.6!) and isn't
>>> scheduled to be fully EOL until 2024.
>>>
>>> It is true that upgrading requires some effort (and risk) from
>>> operators, but this is work they eventually have to do anyway, so it's
>>> not a matter of /if/ they have to do it, but rather when.
>>>
>>> It is also true that current CloudStack releases should continue to
>>> work, it's also possible that someone might back port future fixes to
>>> a RHEL6 compatible fork (you're more than welcome to).
>>>
>>> I'd vote +1 to remove support for el6 packaging.
>>>
> 
> rohit.yadav@shapeblue.comĀ 
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