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From Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14
Date Sun, 21 Apr 2019 20:14:17 GMT
Rafael - you're digressing from the discussion. You're right with the semantic versioning definition
but we don't really follow the referenced wiki/document by the word.


The wiki has gone through several changes where they were not all agreed and voted on. Per
the original intent and our understanding, the versioning scheme (since the first 4.0.0 release)
we follow is "4.x.y.z" where a change in x makes it a major release, and when it's y is the
minor release and z is for security release. Therefore, 4.11, 4.12, 4.13 are all major releases
and all releases till date have been referenced, announced as such.


The proposal of a 5.0.0 is a recent one, and has many potential ill effects on our community
and our users, and therefore is greatly opposed.


Regards,

Rohit Yadav

Software Architect, ShapeBlue

https://www.shapeblue.com

________________________________
From: Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 12:50:49 AM
To: dev
Cc: users
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14

Major? Have we discussed the 5.0.0 already?
4.13 is not a major release. At least, according with this page [1], 4.13
is considered a minor one.

> For those that may not be familiar with Semantic Versioning, the number
> format is: X.Y.Z, where X is the major version, Y is the minor version, Z
> is the patch number.
>

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Releases

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 12:11 PM Andrija Panic <andrija.panic@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Vladimir,
>
> is it possible that you upgrade management and hypervisors hosts for the
> next major release - we are not talking removing packaging support for
> current LTS release/updates but for the next MAJOR release.
>
> Upgrading management hosts is as simple as introducing additional ones and
> removing old ones.
>
> Regards,
> Andrija
>

rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue
  
 

> On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 16:31, Vladimir Melnik <v.melnik@uplink.ua> wrote:
>
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > As for me, I still have 3 hosts running CentOS 6 and 2 management servers
> > in one of my production environments.
> >
> > Also I have 1 management servers running CentOS 6 in another environment.
> >
> > If my voice counts, I'd propose -1.
> >
> > Thanks for attention :-)
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 07:44:58AM +0000, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> > > All,
> > >
> > >
> > > With CentOS8 around the corner to be released sometime around the
> > summer, I would like to propose to deprecate CentOS6 as support
> management
> > server host distro and KVM host distro. Non-systemd enabled Ubuntu
> releases
> > have been already deprecated [1].
> > >
> > >
> > > The older CentOS6 version would hold us back as we try to adapt, use
> and
> > support newer JRE version, kvm/libvirt version, the Linux kernel, and
> > several other older dependencies. Both CentOS6 and RHEL6 have reached EOL
> > on May 10th, 2017 wrt full updates [1].
> > >
> > >
> > > If we don't have any disagreements, I propose we remove el6 packaging
> > support in the next major release - 4.13. But, if there are users and
> > organisations that will be badly impacted, let 4.13 be the last of
> releases
> > to support el6 and we definitely remove el6 support in 4.14.
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] EOL date wiki reference:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Hypervisor+and+Management+Server+OS+EOL+Dates
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Rohit Yadav
> > >
> > > Software Architect, ShapeBlue
> > >
> > > https://www.shapeblue.com
> > >
> > > rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com
> > > www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> > > Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
> > > @shapeblue
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > V.Melnik
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
>


--
Rafael Weingärtner

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