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From Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingart...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14
Date Sun, 21 Apr 2019 22:12:52 GMT
Agree to disagree, but C'est la vie ;)

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 5:14 PM Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> Rafael - you're digressing from the discussion. You're right with the
> semantic versioning definition but we don't really follow the referenced
> wiki/document by the word.
>
>
> The wiki has gone through several changes where they were not all agreed
> and voted on. Per the original intent and our understanding, the versioning
> scheme (since the first 4.0.0 release) we follow is "4.x.y.z" where a
> change in x makes it a major release, and when it's y is the minor release
> and z is for security release. Therefore, 4.11, 4.12, 4.13 are all major
> releases and all releases till date have been referenced, announced as such.
>
>
> The proposal of a 5.0.0 is a recent one, and has many potential ill
> effects on our community and our users, and therefore is greatly opposed.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rohit Yadav
>
> Software Architect, ShapeBlue
>
> https://www.shapeblue.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 12:50:49 AM
> To: dev
> Cc: users
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Remove support for el6 packaging in 4.13/4.14
>
> Major? Have we discussed the 5.0.0 already?
> 4.13 is not a major release. At least, according with this page [1], 4.13
> is considered a minor one.
>
> > For those that may not be familiar with Semantic Versioning, the number
> > format is: X.Y.Z, where X is the major version, Y is the minor version, Z
> > is the patch number.
> >
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Releases
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 12:11 PM Andrija Panic <andrija.panic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Vladimir,
> >
> > is it possible that you upgrade management and hypervisors hosts for the
> > next major release - we are not talking removing packaging support for
> > current LTS release/updates but for the next MAJOR release.
> >
> > Upgrading management hosts is as simple as introducing additional ones
> and
> > removing old ones.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrija
> >
>
> rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 16:31, Vladimir Melnik <v.melnik@uplink.ua>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear colleagues,
> > >
> > > As for me, I still have 3 hosts running CentOS 6 and 2 management
> servers
> > > in one of my production environments.
> > >
> > > Also I have 1 management servers running CentOS 6 in another
> environment.
> > >
> > > If my voice counts, I'd propose -1.
> > >
> > > Thanks for attention :-)
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 07:44:58AM +0000, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With CentOS8 around the corner to be released sometime around the
> > > summer, I would like to propose to deprecate CentOS6 as support
> > management
> > > server host distro and KVM host distro. Non-systemd enabled Ubuntu
> > releases
> > > have been already deprecated [1].
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The older CentOS6 version would hold us back as we try to adapt, use
> > and
> > > support newer JRE version, kvm/libvirt version, the Linux kernel, and
> > > several other older dependencies. Both CentOS6 and RHEL6 have reached
> EOL
> > > on May 10th, 2017 wrt full updates [1].
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If we don't have any disagreements, I propose we remove el6 packaging
> > > support in the next major release - 4.13. But, if there are users and
> > > organisations that will be badly impacted, let 4.13 be the last of
> > releases
> > > to support el6 and we definitely remove el6 support in 4.14.
> > > >
> > > > What are your thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] EOL date wiki reference:
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Hypervisor+and+Management+Server+OS+EOL+Dates
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Rohit Yadav
> > > >
> > > > Software Architect, ShapeBlue
> > > >
> > > > https://www.shapeblue.com
> > > >
> > > > rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com
> > > > www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> > > > Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
> > > > @shapeblue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > V.Melnik
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Andrija Panić
> >
>
>
> --
> Rafael Weingärtner
>


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Rafael Weingärtner

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