From dev-return-112653-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@cloudstack.apache.org Fri Mar 15 12:49:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 054A8180627 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:49:27 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 83703 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2019 12:49:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cloudstack.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 83691 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2019 12:49:26 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:49:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id B695518313E for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:49:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.024 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.024 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, MIME_BOUND_DIGITS_15=1.225, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a048UJQpLlAd for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-f46.google.com (mail-lf1-f46.google.com [209.85.167.46]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 625A45F17E for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-f46.google.com with SMTP id m13so6789642lfb.6 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 05:49:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=JwHnLNVKQuVvuK6V/uuHZQnasQT6NU2e1+791BTeFIs=; b=OiVBKS8WxR4SIjFS7CnQ/TdcPXB7yrYBGxuBJk4csEv35QQwVTmeTGH5VMppIuBwQb 88J1S7QbWX3u9qS9bEI1k7V/Sbpls2FNFGef82NPfTOSaI8d5+6pTOVcT9uPgUbQ8AQX 3zEfZivYaWe+z6p7z1XUPAq4IhdnWiiHnBXEFx4Tc0Iz6JuTP8xJyFrRS276DYv+f0h8 BIR6RAIEO1hKEjDrQWkVvYOeqS8OBWEjfNJ7FvyPlq8m13PbjULAIYXGXUZvkYW7kq4E NtgixE6GF9fkiUkBsbvsF9Z8DcrlPgYM6BYBeDDJfilbJ5xBoEhSRbUWZjpSiJk8qvrG nwNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JwHnLNVKQuVvuK6V/uuHZQnasQT6NU2e1+791BTeFIs=; b=dcIab1EkMKvkuzdS550s/eed0nJq1ohYv+2OE/GiaKCwT/GKMnPMWFSNs1hZhKiN2Y lmy7xRGP3oetUw163qHTgJfMuw19QjkX90PWfNt0E7G5mB1V0NYHPVGgaLoFmQGBwk0b bsV+a9Tzaj6DWd2f7aZIqEilp4M4wpsXfkUK+njJnZSuPdt14+/NUuOKEegqVZpm2AKP Vyqfa0qz/B6WpD+RGF3YJtwTKtau7yeWc1pEZBKpdMiTUBa61/ve8d1op7+KmrRkjhk4 BJKfXii16nKpx/CZTuSXzcdUpmffBOv4Kgn8ZwTUtq1rT06dFHkQiOAenfLciUiutXog kTjA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW9GCPIOZefdPFBnDDAOON/APHrf5W3yRmSo9x/TF5oydQdkmss cfFw3SX8eGoNbio0CVHvIem7wcc3H+IpHNJeW8F8b1eC X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzPRUGVBQGhEryXg0R7R5ZbpXnFAbZ1GQBSpNg8bcEzCeYhqgDpEM24vKelO9wAiIzoOhyYDkiUd47nDRWv/+Y= X-Received: by 2002:a19:ae11:: with SMTP id f17mr2245123lfc.12.1552654157223; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 05:49:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <63ef3aa3.e3.1697ad8316b.Coremail.18602198181@163.com> <135a6a33a9faa895ad5b83e00673b19c6d4b0cd2.camel@swisstxt.ch> In-Reply-To: From: Jean-Francois Nadeau Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 08:49:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any plan for 4.11 LTS extension ? To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Cc: "Riepl, Gregor (SWISS TXT)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008019010584217718" --0000000000008019010584217718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I can only agree with Haijiao, that 4.11 deserves a longer time span. Because many bugs are found naturally between the .0 and .1 of the next LTS release with it's adoption. For us 4.11 could only be adopted with 4.11.2.0 after several bugs needed to get resolved. So if 4.11's support stops in July then it's time span was only 6 months from our perspective. -jfn On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:34 AM Wido den Hollander wrote: > > > On 3/15/19 10:20 AM, Riepl, Gregor (SWISS TXT) wrote: > > Hi Giles, > > > >> I would *expect* 4.13.0 (LTS) to be released in Q2, which will > >> supersede the 4.11 branch as the current LTS branch > > > > Are you confident that this schedule can be kept? > > 4.12 is still in RC right now, and I don't think it's a good idea to > > rush another major release in just 3 months... > > > 4.11.3 will be released first with some bugfixes to keep 4.11 a proper > release. > > 4.12 needs to go out now so that we can test and prepare for 4.13. I'm > confident we can have a stable and proper 4.13 release as long as we > don't keep the window open for too long. > > The major problem is having the master branch open for a long time, > features going in and people not testing it sufficiently. > > By having a relatively short period between 4.12 and 4.13 we can catch > most bugs and stabilize for a proper LTS. > > Wido > --0000000000008019010584217718--