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From Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
Subject RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.12.0.0 [RC2]
Date Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:26:07 GMT
I fear that we are regressing into becoming dogmatic and developer focussed again, and forgetting
that the project wouldn't exist if it weren't for users.  If we want CloudStack to grow, we
have to help the users who are willing to put time and energy into testing, but don't have
the skills to build CloudStack from source.
The hastag wasn't #cloudstackworks(onceyourfiguredouthowtobuilditfromsource)


paul.angus@shapeblue.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rafael Weingärtner <rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> 
Sent: 14 February 2019 13:40
To: users <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
Cc: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>; Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.12.0.0 [RC2]

That is a good question. Traditionally (as far as I know), http://download.cloudstack.org/
has never hosted the packages with non-redistributable dependencies such as VMware VIM, and
some others that we have. If we want to change that, I guess, we would need to start changing
the documentation we have regarding the release process. And, of course, the installation
process that says users need to compile from source when they want to use a cloud stack release
with these dependencies.



On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 3:34 PM Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> AFAIK, the offending jars have all been removed now and what's left is 
> distributable.  Also the convenience binaries are hosted by 'the community'
> not by Apache, kinda sidestepping the issue.
>
> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabriel Beims Bräscher <gabrascher@gmail.com>
> Sent: 13 February 2019 17:06
> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>; Dingane Hlaluku <
> Dingane.Hlaluku@shapeblue.com>
> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org; Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.12.0.0 [RC2]
>
> Rene, it looks like that is the intention of the implementation indeed.
> @Paul Angus, @Rohit Yadav, and @Dingane Hlaluku <
> Dingane.Hlaluku@shapeblue.com> might have something to add regarding [1].
>
> Paul, when reading the warning about such build I considered that
> CloudStack repository should not contain binaries built with the *noredist*
> profile. Would we be ok to make those available?
>
> > Warning
> > Some of the plugins supported by CloudStack cannot be distributed with
> > CloudStack for licensing reasons. In some cases, some of the required
> > libraries/JARs are under a proprietary license. In other cases, the
> > required libraries may be under a license that's not compatible with
> > Apache's licensing guidelines for third-party products.
> >
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel.
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/commit/323f791efca6f1d5b8bb63573d9e385c97c427e1#diff-386567a135e2a56f117a25d2abf98218R1435
> [2]
>
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/4.11/building_from_source.html#building-non-oss
>
> Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 14:46, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> escreveu:
>
> > Could you rebuild the binaries please so that that anyone using those
> > features, predominately VMware users can test.
> > I can internally generate the binaries, but that doesn't help everyone
> > else.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> > www.shapeblue.com
> > Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gabriel Beims Bräscher <gabrascher@gmail.com>
> > Sent: 13 February 2019 16:39
> > To: users <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Cc: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.12.0.0 [RC2]
> >
> > Paul Angus, I did not use this flag.
> >
> > Em qua, 13 de fev de 2019 às 14:34, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >
> > escreveu:
> >
> > > Gabriel,
> > >
> > > When trying to test I'm receiving the following message:
> > >
> > > Error: (HTTP 432, error code 9999) Unknown API command: addVmwareDc
> > >
> > > Did you use the nonoss flag when building the binaries?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> > > www.shapeblue.com
> > > Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gabriel Beims Bräscher <gabrascher@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: 13 February 2019 01:23
> > > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>; users <
> users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > > Subject: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.12.0.0 [RC2]
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > The issue in RC1 (4.12.0.0-RC20190206T2333) have been addressed and we
> > are
> > > ready to go with RC2.
> > > I've created the 4.12 RC2 (4.12.0.0-RC20190212T2301) release candidate,
> > > with the following artifacts up for a vote:
> > >
> > > Git Branch and Commit SH:
> > > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/master
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/commit/709845f4a333ad2ace0183706433a0653ba159c6
> > > Commit: 709845f4a333ad2ace0183706433a0653ba159c6
> > >
> > > Source release for 4.12.0.0-RC20190212T2301:
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cloudstack/4.12.0.0/
> > >
> > > PGP release keys (signed using 25908455):
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/cloudstack/KEYS
> > >
> > > The vote will be open for 3 business days (until 15th January).
> > >
> > > For sanity in tallying the vote, can PMC members please be sure to
> > > indicate "(binding)" with their vote?
> > >
> > > [ ] +1  approve
> > > [ ] +0  no opinion
> > > [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
> > >
> > > Additional information:
> > >
> > > For users' convenience, packages are available in
> > > http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/
> > > RC1 <http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/RC1> has been built for the
> following
> > > distros:
> > > - Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, and 18.04;
> > > - CentOS6 and CentOS7.
> > >
> > > The system VM template from 4.11.2 [1] works for RC2. The release notes
> > > [2] still need to be updated.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Gabriel.
> > >
> > > [1] http://download.cloudstack.org/systemvm/4.11/
> > > [2]
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/latest/index.html
> > >
> >
>


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Rafael Weingärtner
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