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From Daan Hoogland <>
Subject [DISCUSS] VR upgrade downtime reduction
Date Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:44:19 GMT
H devs,

I have recently (re-)submitted two PRs, one by Wei [1] and one by Remi [2],
that reduce downtime for redundant routers and redundant VPCs respectively.
(please review those)
Now from customers we hear that they also want to reduce downtime for
regular VRs so as we discussed this we came to two possible solutions that
we want to implement one of:

1. start and configure a new router before destroying the old one and then
as a last minute action stop the old one.
2. make all routers start up redundancy services but for regular routers
start only one until an upgrade is required at which time a new, second
router can be started before killing the old one.​

​obviously both solutions have their merits, so I want to have your input
to make the broadest supported implementation.
-1 means there will be an overlap or a small delay and interruption of
+1 It can be argued, "they got what they payed for".
-2 means a overhead in memory usage by the router by the extra services
running on it.
+2 the number of router-varieties will be further reduced.

-1&-2 We have to deal with potentially large upgrade steps from way before
the cloudstack era even and might be stuck to 1 because of that, needing to
hack around it. Any dealing with older VRs, pre 4.5 and especially pre 4.0
will be hard.

I am not cross posting though this might be one of these occasions where it
is appropriate to include users@. Just my puristic inhibitions.

Of course I have preferences but can you share your thoughts, please?
​And don't forget to review Wei's [1] and Remi's [2] work please.



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