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From Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Releases in Progress
Date Tue, 06 Feb 2018 06:28:07 GMT
Maybe we should use that wiki page for release advertising while the web
page only points to it?

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:09 AM, Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
wrote:

>
> Makes sense but we should try to get rid of inaccurate stuff and stuff
> that makes it look like the project is not maintained.
>
> This is particularly and obviously true with pages that talk about
> "current" versions, roadmaps and outstanding issues.
>
> The page in question was very explicit about version 4.6 being current and
> duplicated the ideas that were contained in a page about release policy
> that was not version specific. It did have some nice graphics that might be
> worth incorporating into  the other page.
>
> The structure of the wiki needs a bit of thought and cleaning up. It needs
> to be looked at from a "marketing" point of view rather than a developer
> point of view. Development policies need to be included since they are
> important but they need to be written in a version-free point of view and
> need to be structured in a way that a first time visitor will have an easy
> way to find what they need and will find as many pages that paint a
> favourable view of the project as is possible without lying.
>
> The details about version numbers and release policies are not top of mind
> with a person doing an evaluation of Cloudstack and its alternatives but is
> critical for developers.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> On 05/02/2018 11:14 PM, Will Stevens wrote:
>
>> My point was simply that if it has good ranking already, we should update
>> the page so we can put relevant information there so it can be easily
>> found.  Just trying to leverage it in our favor is all.
>>
>> *Will Stevens*
>> Chief Technology Officer
>> c514.826.0190
>>
>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:34 PM, Ron Wheeler <
>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com <mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     SEO ranking is great but putting up stuff from 3 or 4 releases in
>>     the past blows away all of the SEO benefit when someone actually
>>     goes to the page.
>>     The reader is left with the impression that the product is not
>>     actively supported (actively developed but not supported)
>>
>>     I am not sure that SEO raking makes any difference when the number
>>     of alternative search results is so small.
>>     How many "products" will rank ahead of Cloudstack for
>>     virtualization orchestration?
>>
>>     Is there a list of search keywords for which we want to get a high
>>     ranking?
>>     Who are the competitors and what keywords should they win?
>>
>>     Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 05/02/2018 4:13 PM, Will Stevens wrote:
>>
>>         As a project, especially around the topic of 'releases', I
>>         assume we should
>>         leverage any SEO placement we can use.  I don't have specific
>>         content I
>>         think we should put there, but if it is well placed, it would
>>         make sense
>>         that we put some detail on the page.  We don't have to, but I
>>         figured I
>>         would mention it.
>>
>>         *Will Stevens*
>>         Chief Technology Officer
>>         c 514.826.0190 <tel:514.826.0190>
>>
>>         <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>
>>         On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Daan Hoogland
>>         <daan.hoogland@gmail.com <mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>             no one had made use of it since the RM for 4.4 (no who was
>>             that again) We
>>             can undelete if you wish. I copied the only worthwhile
>>             page to the HOWTO
>>             articles.
>>
>>             On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Will Stevens
>>             <wstevens@cloudops.com <mailto:wstevens@cloudops.com>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                 Is there a reason we deleted it and didn't just update
>>                 it?  It would have
>>                 been good to take advantage of the SEO that page
>>                 already had working for
>>
>>             us
>>
>>                 and just update the content to represent the latest
>>                 details.  No?
>>
>>                 *Will Stevens*
>>                 Chief Technology Officer
>>                 c 514.826.0190 <tel:514.826.0190>
>>
>>                 <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>
>>                 On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Daan Hoogland
>>                 <daan.hoogland@gmail.com <mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com
>> >>
>>                 wrote:
>>
>>                     deleted
>>
>>                     On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Ron Wheeler
>>
>>             <rwheeler@artifact-software.
>>
>>                     com>
>>                     wrote:
>>
>>                         https://cwiki.apache.org/confl
>> uence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Relea
>>                         <https://cwiki.apache.org/conf
>> luence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Relea>
>>                         ses+in+Progress is old and needs to be update
>>                         to talk about ACS 4.10,
>>                         4.11 and 4.12.
>>
>>                         Ron
>>
>>                         --
>>                         Ron Wheeler
>>                         President
>>                         Artifact Software Inc
>>                         email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>                         <mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
>>                         skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>                         phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>                         <tel:866-970-2435%2C%20ext%20102>
>>
>>
>>
>>                     --
>>                     Daan
>>
>>
>>
>>             --
>>             Daan
>>
>>
>>
>>     --     Ron Wheeler
>>     President
>>     Artifact Software Inc
>>     email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>     <mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
>>     skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>     phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 <tel:866-970-2435%2C%20ext%20102>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
>


-- 
Daan

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