Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAF8200D61 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 22:15:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 39216160C1B; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 57BD3160BFF for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 22:15:25 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 87908 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2017 21:15:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cloudstack.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cloudstack.apache.org Received: (qmail 87896 invoked by uid 99); 19 Dec 2017 21:15:23 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:15:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 60A091806D0 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:15:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=nuagenetworks-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zxwxhXGHGccb for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vk0-f48.google.com (mail-vk0-f48.google.com [209.85.213.48]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 57A625F23C for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id k132so3290933vke.10 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:15:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nuagenetworks-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RmiOG3cPBsj8fe8vZirXDEMElxKT9cc1Lbp/IccAO48=; b=B//Zl+NJZXKYmFr7ISMaGHrlpPOPv3jTOt+t7DvBn7+smZ1IRDv+anEL1NPH19+tEq QJAMWeQqAwWJiDLyc2hyi/fO0ta9ulmswI2CgljNvEjHXNu3h1TQEOR/Qrpzms9fdhv/ XlCrPaLzJqia8nQR31Uui1GzAy8RRHlHlE0Okkk7eIPUywEKAe/pzTzfbR+muhRAL2u3 wkHD6J1I0nrxqrHEZkHubzndnwuGueGyNZvv02mbx/1YLm5/oOrklqoYR3ewM+DZOXmx 9PvW5sF8ZqvrF6ipcIB/gN++LQOB/le5AgDH06h1Ih/wmZxDIRWh6ZD8Anjlu7vhHwZi kxIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=RmiOG3cPBsj8fe8vZirXDEMElxKT9cc1Lbp/IccAO48=; b=QnGlzwCw9/fABusWVPnewpt42PBPPSgWnQnxsGKHLNNpHnUAeA28qBNKW8k6uL6myX S3ded8QA9y2hfBsAtdifWCA/vAjjUcsCviC8zIBeRS5SU+3Ghh7GahtGTVv8Lqyl56TG 4+3N79x201RL7e7dYFgjiFl/Zuz2QGERHcZYDNEHmi+LRWFjGz3hoceAb56XcRSE59KV NMIYuu+KQNu5dEhgxNsdHy/YTLbFU+qBonRolwqO9Q6/kWOXwjVqFHMM0mzJXGKuorMP k3o0D8m0KjqETQ/En6o1Ee7DqlRLe8VGR5I/+kTEzUWIBXmYnB1wtn/2rhxEj4eKzjFz FtCw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKVn1wBBlmXCTU8Qwb2tAlbtBa/oEiqMDsOZEDR0sJDDUbW8MWI 8xofCybpniW+xBBtzTA8vsT1zs7LExwnpT78cfm5mx5pAw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotxkwVAISr0OurEBofsJFzeVq+56hfUSOgRXFkvMg1wtPjeJSQp8IuaxS6e6rGzauuJS26OdoEQmnUWKOI/R6o= X-Received: by 10.31.49.23 with SMTP id x23mr4586984vkx.186.1513718114855; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:15:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.74.151 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:15:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Kris Sterckx Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 22:15:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 4.11 : Physical networking migration ; Config Drive support To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11437e3686c7670560b7f689" archived-at: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:15:26 -0000 --001a11437e3686c7670560b7f689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Also, both PRs have been (re)rebased today : Network migration : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2259 Config Drive : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2097 Hope to make these happen. Thanks, Kris On 19 December 2017 at 15:44, Kris Sterckx wrote: > Hi Wido. > > sorry for late reply. Thanks, that sounds great. > > Yes we can move from SS to PS if we accept that once 4.12 is deployed with > updated code, in order to migrate a particular's VM iso, the VM needs to be > stopped & restarted. Then the iso will be recreated. > > My suggestion would be merging in Config drive support and declare as > experimental in 4.11 , then people (ops and devs) can use it for > experimental use and give feedback and we can further harden it in 4.12 and > declare it as GA. > I think any other way won't work. > > Let me know your view. > > Thanks, Kris > > > On 14 December 2017 at 09:59, Wido den Hollander wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/07/2017 03:17 PM, Kris Sterckx wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> I would like to raise attention to 2 features which are pending 4.11, >>> which >>> received great appreciation from some of you and which from Nuage >>> perspective we see great interest to from large operators also. They are >>> : >>> >>> - Physical networking migration, or : Migrate networks to a new >>> physical >>> network >>> Jira : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-10024 >>> Design doc : >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Physi >>> cal+Networking+Migration >>> PR : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2259 >>> - Config Drive support : >>> >>> Jira : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-9813 >>> Design doc : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-9813 >>> PR : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2097 >>> >>> >>> I would like to emphasis first that both features are generic solutions, >>> not tight to any SDN solution whatsoever. >>> >>> >>> Regarding network migration support : to anyone interested in this >>> capability, please review the design doc and/or the PR. The more buy-in >>> we >>> get to this large amount of work we spent to this, the more appraisal you >>> give to the guys who spent the work. We hope to get this PR merged in >>> before end of the year. >>> >>> >>> Regarding config drive support : as already discussed in the Miami >>> Collaboration conference in May, this PR gives you fully standard >>> cloud-init support using the OpenStack configdrive datasource provider >>> and >>> it works like a charm. We received very positive feedback to this. There >>> has been discussion about the storage strategy though and people voted >>> for >>> storing the iso's at primary storage rather than at secondary storage. >>> There has been further work spent on this by Frank Maximus and there has >>> been some review of that but i am not sure we still want to include that >>> change still in 4.11. Frankly my proposal would be we take an incremental >>> approach and start larger validation cycles for the outstanding PR and >>> approach further evolution of it in the next release cycle. Open to your >>> feedback. In any case I would find it a missed opportunity if config >>> drive >>> would eventually not find its way into 4.11 at all. Again, we see great >>> interest in this. Potentially we could declare it as experimental >>> support, >>> to be enabled via an advanced setting - just an idea. In that way more >>> people get can a sense of how it works and provide feedback. Another item >>> to notice is that as Nuage team does not have XenServer deployments, we >>> have no facility to verify the PR with XenServer. Helping out on that >>> would >>> be appreciated also. >>> >>> >> We could do it in two steps indeed. Move to PS in a later stage (if >> that's doable?). >> >> I would love to take a look at this as I'd love to see this feature in >> 4.11, but I'm very low on time to actually look at it. >> >> Wido >> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> > --001a11437e3686c7670560b7f689--