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From Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate
Date Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:12:55 GMT
Only though testing we can know if there are any regressions, with Debian7 to be unsupported
somewhere in 2018 we need to start some work around this.

Distros such as Arch Linux are not solid enough or work out of the box and have bleeding edge
unstable software. Debian 9 "stretch" finally have openjdk-8-jre-headless (which surprising
was not in debian8, though was in debian8's backports) so we can move away from using Azul's
distro as well, along with having updated stable dependencies/versions.


Debian distributions are usually gold standard for security with other distros such as Tails
and Kali Linux build on top of it, maybe a reason why systemvm templates were originally build
using Debian as base. Moving to a new distribution will be a lot more work given highly assumed
and dependent code (bash/python scripts) that targets Debian based systemvmtemplate. Perhaps
a more modular and modern approach would be to split systemvm services and run them in containers,
using a light base such as Alpine Linux, however that's a different discussion and a much
bigger project to undertake.


- Rohit

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From: Jayapal Uradi <jayapal.uradi@accelerite.com>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 6:34:08 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate


First one come to my mind is VPN feature.
But other general issues will depend on what are changed in debain9.

Thanks,
Jayapal




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> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Satki Badal <satki.badal@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jayapal,
>
> Do we know what all features re covered by Marvin and what all will require manual testing
?
> I guess without this list we can never be sure is all the features got tested or not.
>
> Thanks,
> Satki
>
>> On 24-Jul-2017, at 9:48 AM, Jayapal Uradi <jayapal.uradi@accelerite.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We should throughly check all the VR features to see feature breakage because of
 Debian9.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jayapal
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>> Just want to kick an initial discussion around migration to Debian9 based systemvmtemplate,
and get your feedback on the same.
>>>
>>> Here's a work-in-progress PR: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2198
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com
>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> @shapeblue
>>>
>>>
>>>
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