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From Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>
Subject Re: Developer Guide - Current Setup Guide?
Date Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:46:30 GMT
It is worth asking people to sign those even if they are not a committer,
but they are actively contributing to the wiki.  So if that is your point,
then I agree that is probably a good idea Ron...

*Will Stevens*
CTO

<https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@artifact-software.com
> wrote:

> https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf should be filled in and
> submitted.
> It covers all Apache projects so you only do it once. It specifically
> mentions documentation.
>
> It is also important to note that if a contributor works for a company and
> works on Apache projects on company time or has signed an employment
> agreement that gives the employer rights to all work that they do while
> they are employed, Apache needs a corporate CLA
> https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt wherein the corporation
> cedes the rights to Apache.
> Unfortunately the PMC needs to trust the individual contributors to be
> aware of the status of the rights to their work and do the right thing.
> If you suspect that a contributor is in this situation, it is worth asking
> the questions about their employment and getting a CCLA signed.
>
> These are not onerous but are a sign that a project takes its work
> seriously and intends to have people integrate their products into
> production environments without having to worry about legal entanglements.
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 10/07/2017 1:58 PM, Alex Hitchins wrote:
>
>> This sounds like it isn't needed currently, correct?
>>
>> I will see if I can locate my confluence credentials, sure I had these
>> circa 2013!
>>
>> Do I assume the broader answer to my question is that this is the most up
>> to date resource? I see another person ask noob question so wondered if I
>> had missed something.
>>
>> If anyone with cloudstack chops has a spare 10 minutes to look over the
>> current guide with me I'd be more than happy to work the changes back in to
>> the wiki. I'll even hand over all rights to Apache.
>>
>> On 10 Jul 2017, at 18:29, Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You may want to own the wiki content as well as the software.
>>>
>>> A company may want to quote the wiki or incorporate some of it into
>>> their documentation without having to get the rights from each person who
>>> contributed to the page.
>>>
>>>
>>> Even more complicated if someone posts a design or an enhancement and
>>> then claims to own it and patent it.
>>>
>>> It is good practice to make sure that Apache owns it all (code, docs,
>>> test cases, enhancements, patches)  and that you can use it all without
>>> legal problems under the Apache license.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On 10/07/2017 12:23 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
>>>> Why do you say that Ron? You need one to become a committer. for the
>>>> wiki we need to recognise you as a contributor. I think you need no
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Ron Wheeler
>>>> <rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alex,
>>>>> Do you have a CLA on file with Apache.
>>>>> You should have one to contribute to the wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/07/2017 10:42 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>> create your account on cwiki and we can give you access
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Alex Hitchins <alex@alexhitchins.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help with
this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have an open PR on the repo readme.md, minor documentation
change
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> somehow is breaking the build. My guess is it's something unrelated
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> master.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2017, at 22:37, Will Stevens <williamstevens@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need to amend. As of 4.10 we are on jdk 8.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will have to review it and see what needs to be done to
bring it
>>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>>> date.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2017 4:46 PM, "Alex Hitchins" <alex@alexhitchins.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Asking as I want to be sure I'm getting myself setup correctly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I appreciate setup guides may not necessitate lots of amendments
>>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>> years seemed a long time to go with nothing. Are we still
on JDK 6
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> example?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More than happy to amend Confluence with updates as I come
across
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexander Hitchins
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> E: alex@alexhitchins.com
>>>>>>>> W: alexhitchins.com
>>>>>>>> M: 07788 423 969
>>>>>>>> T: 01892 523 587
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: 07 July 2017 21:08
>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Developer Guide - Current Setup Guide?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you ask, Alex? Is something not working?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Biligual auto correct use.  Read at your own risico
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2017 9:54 pm, "Alex Hitchins" <alex@alexhitchins.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I note this was last amended 2013, is there a better/more
recent
>>>>>>>>> resource for the aspiring CloudStack developer?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/
>>>>>>>>> Setting+up+CloudStack
>>>>>>>>> +Development+Environment+on+Linux
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alexander Hitchins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> E: alex@alexhitchins.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> W: alexhitchins.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> M: 07788 423 969
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> T: 01892 523 587
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>> President
>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Ron Wheeler
>>> President
>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
>

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