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From Alex Hitchins <a...@alexhitchins.com>
Subject RE: Developer Guide - Current Setup Guide?
Date Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:27:10 GMT
That was my understanding. I'm working on this on my own time, so I have no legal concerns
over the ownership of work.

I understand it's probably worthwhile in the long run but adds another step people may consider
too much bother to make a one line change to a URL.


Alexander Hitchins
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com] 
Sent: 10 July 2017 19:21
To: Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>; dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Developer Guide - Current Setup Guide?

They do not need to be a committer of software.
I support the documentation in a number of projects where I am not a committer.

The ACL does give you any rights.
It only says that you agree that the rights to ANYTHING that you contribute to a project belong
to Apache.


Ron


On 10/07/2017 1:50 PM, Will Stevens wrote:
> While I agree with some of your points Ron, we also need to make sure 
> that we are setup to be able to take advantage of motivated people 
> contributing (especially around documentation) without first requiring 
> that they become a committer.  That is a bit of a chicken and egg 
> problem because no one will accept a new committer with zero activity, 
> so if we didn't give this type of access, then an interested 
> contributor would never be able to support the project in the ways 
> know how.
>
> We need as much support on the supporting documentation as we can get, 
> and we don't have the convenience of mechanisms like 'pull requests' 
> on wiki content.
>
> My 0.02$ anyway...
>
> *Will Stevens*
> CTO
>
> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Ron Wheeler 
> <rwheeler@artifact-software.com 
> <mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com>> wrote:
>
>     You may want to own the wiki content as well as the software.
>
>     A company may want to quote the wiki or incorporate some of it
>     into their documentation without having to get the rights from
>     each person who contributed to the page.
>
>
>     Even more complicated if someone posts a design or an enhancement
>     and then claims to own it and patent it.
>
>     It is good practice to make sure that Apache owns it all (code,
>     docs, test cases, enhancements, patches)  and that you can use it
>     all without legal problems under the Apache license.
>
>
>     Ron
>
>
>     On 10/07/2017 12:23 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
>
>         Why do you say that Ron? You need one to become a committer.
>         for the
>         wiki we need to recognise you as a contributor. I think you
>         need no
>         more.
>
>         On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Ron Wheeler
>         <rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>         <mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com>> wrote:
>
>             Alex,
>             Do you have a CLA on file with Apache.
>             You should have one to contribute to the wiki.
>
>             Ron
>
>             On 10/07/2017 10:42 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
>
>                 create your account on cwiki and we can give you access
>
>                 On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Alex Hitchins
>                 <alex@alexhitchins.com <mailto:alex@alexhitchins.com>>
>                 wrote:
>
>                     Please let me know if there is anything I can do
>                     to help with this.
>
>                     I have an open PR on the repo readme.md
>                     <http://readme.md>, minor documentation change but
>                     somehow is breaking the build. My guess is it's
>                     something unrelated on
>                     master.
>
>                         On 8 Jul 2017, at 22:37, Will Stevens
>                         <williamstevens@gmail.com
>                         <mailto:williamstevens@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                         We need to amend. As of 4.10 we are on jdk 8.
>
>                         I will have to review it and see what needs to
>                         be done to bring it up to
>                         date.
>
>                         On Jul 8, 2017 4:46 PM, "Alex Hitchins"
>                         <alex@alexhitchins.com
>                         <mailto:alex@alexhitchins.com>> wrote:
>
>                         Asking as I want to be sure I'm getting myself
>                         setup correctly.
>
>                         I appreciate setup guides may not necessitate
>                         lots of amendments however
>                         4
>                         years seemed a long time to go with nothing.
>                         Are we still on JDK 6 for
>                         example?
>
>                         More than happy to amend Confluence with
>                         updates as I come across them.
>
>
>                         Alexander Hitchins
>                         ------------------------
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>
>                         -----Original Message-----
>                         From: Daan Hoogland
>                         [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com
>                         <mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com>]
>                         Sent: 07 July 2017 21:08
>                         To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>                         <mailto:dev@cloudstack.apache.org>>
>                         Subject: Re: Developer Guide - Current Setup
>                         Guide?
>
>                         Why do you ask, Alex? Is something not working?
>
>                         Biligual auto correct use.  Read at your own
>                         risico
>
>                             On 7 Jul 2017 9:54 pm, "Alex Hitchins"
>                             <alex@alexhitchins.com
>                             <mailto:alex@alexhitchins.com>> wrote:
>
>                             Hello all,
>
>
>
>                             I note this was last amended 2013, is
>                             there a better/more recent
>                             resource for the aspiring CloudStack
>                             developer?
>
>
>
>                             https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/
>                             <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/>
>                             Setting+up+CloudStack
>                             +Development+Environment+on+Linux
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                             Alexander Hitchins
>
>                             ------------------------
>
>                             E: alex@alexhitchins.com
>                             <mailto:alex@alexhitchins.com>
>
>                             W: alexhitchins.com <http://alexhitchins.com>
>
>                             M: 07788 423 969
>
>                             T: 01892 523 587
>
>
>
>
>
>             --
>             Ron Wheeler
>             President
>             Artifact Software Inc
>             email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>             <mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
>             skype: ronaldmwheeler
>             phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 <tel:866-970-2435%2C%20ext%20102>
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Ron Wheeler
>     President
>     Artifact Software Inc
>     email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>     <mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
>     skype: ronaldmwheeler
>     phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 <tel:866-970-2435%2C%20ext%20102>
>
>

-- 
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102



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