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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:07:53 -0800
Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
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archived-at: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:11:08 -0000

Is the issue that ACS doesn't support 169.254.169.254 as the metadata URL?

For those hypervisors that use the Linux bridge and iptables, it should be e=
asy to add a DNAT rule to translate it to the VR IP? I'm talking about code c=
hange here.=20
Or send down a static route in the DHCP response that points 169.254.269.254=
 to the VR IP?=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2017, at 3:18 AM, Nux! <nux@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> The upstream Ubuntu and CentOS images will not work out of the box with Cl=
oudstack. I wanted to reuse them for my OpenVM project and failed.
>=20
> The default metadata source is EC2 or Openstack, don't remember, cloud-ini=
t will take ages to time-out and there is zero support for the root password=
 feature - in fact the cloud world is moving away from direct root access an=
d so should we - at least for compatibility reasons if not something else.
>=20
> I am happy to put some more elbow grease into openvm.eu and make some more=
/better templates.=20
>=20
> I can also host other templates such as the cloud.com ones.
>=20
> Open to comments, questions etc.
>=20
> Lucian
>=20
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>=20
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chiradeep Vittal" <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
>> To: "dev" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, 25 February, 2017 00:18:48
>> Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
>=20
>> Also CentOS KVM images can be obtained here:
>> http://cloud.centos.org/centos/7/images/
>>=20
>> If these work, then the only question is where to host the systemvm image=
s.
>>=20
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> I noticed that Ubuntu provides daily builds, including VHDs. Perhaps we
>>> could point the default templates to their URL? Anyone willing to quickl=
y
>>> try out their images to see if they work on ACS?
>>>=20
>>> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/
>>>=20
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> unfortunately the template mirror conversation got caught up in details=

>>>> and
>>>> nobody took the lead on implementing a solution.
>>>>=20
>>>> citrix has been pinging me every couple months to say 'dude, we need to=

>>>> remove the dependency on download.citrix.com', but i have not had the
>>>> cycles to get in and solve the problem.  the shutdown of that is immine=
nt
>>>> right now, so we need to solve it asap.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> *Will STEVENS*
>>>> Lead Developer
>>>>=20
>>>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>>>=20
>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>=

>>>> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi Nathan,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Ideally, if you put the template location in (or use a template define=
d
>>>>> in)  test_data.py then the actual location can be overridden by anyone=

>>>>> testing.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> For Trillian, we've copied all of the templates that people have defin=
e
>>>> to
>>>>> a local repo and then replace the URLs in test_data.py to reduce
>>>> bandwidth
>>>>> use and download times.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Ie:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>            "bootableIso":
>>>>>                {
>>>>>                    "displaytext": "Test Bootable ISO",
>>>>>                    "name": "testISO",
>>>>>                    "bootable": True,
>>>>>                    "ispublic": False,
>>>>>                    "url": "{{ marvin_images_location
>>>>> }}/TinyCore-current.iso",
>>>>>                    "ostype": 'Other Linux (64-bit)',
>>>>>                    "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD'
>>>>>        },
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I thought that we had come up with a solution for download.cloud.com,
>>>> by
>>>>> having a mirrorlist hosted in Community Apache 'space' with anyone abl=
e
>>>> to
>>>>> out themselves forward as a mirror.
>>>>> But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the requisite
>>>> changes
>>>>> in code....
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Paul Angus
>>>>>=20
>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
>>>>> www.shapeblue.com
>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>>>> @shapeblue
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: williamstevens@gmail.com [mailto:williamstevens@gmail.com] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Will Stevens
>>>>> Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30
>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
>>>>>=20
>>>>> this is a hard questions.  in general, we should be setting up a mirro=
r
>>>> on
>>>>> some cloudstack/apache domain and then mirror to other provided
>>>> templates.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> we MUST come up with a solution to deprecate 'download.cloud.com', tha=
t
>>>>> is going to be going away any day now.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> i don't know the right way to solve this to be honest, but if you have=

>>>>> ideas, i am willing to help.
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> *Will STEVENS*
>>>>> Lead Developer
>>>>>=20
>>>>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Nathan Johnson <njohnson@ena.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> So not to re-open a can of worms, but I=E2=80=99m in a situation wher=
e I need
>>>>>> to come up with a Marvin component test that depends on a template
>>>>>> based on a kernel that=E2=80=99s relatively new, i.e., newer than Cen=
tos 5.3 /
>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 .
>>>>>> I see openvm.eu has a suitable template (Ubuntu 16.0.4 for KVM), but
>>>>>> from looking at the thread "Migrating CloudStack content from
>>>>>> download.cloud.com=E2=80=9D it looks like there is resistance to usin=
g this
>>>> at
>>>>>> least for hosting system vm templates over concerns of neutrality.
>>>>>> Would this be suitable for a component test?  If not, what is a
>>>> =E2=80=9Cblessed=E2=80=9D
>>>>>> template location?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Nathan Johnson
>>>>>> R&D Engineer
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> 618 Grassmere Park Drive, Suite 12
>>>>>> Nashville, TN 37211
>>>>>> General Office: 615-312-6000
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> website | blog | support
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