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From Nux! <...@li.nux.ro>
Subject Re: Modern template hosting
Date Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:18:27 GMT
Hello,

The upstream Ubuntu and CentOS images will not work out of the box with Cloudstack. I wanted
to reuse them for my OpenVM project and failed.

The default metadata source is EC2 or Openstack, don't remember, cloud-init will take ages
to time-out and there is zero support for the root password feature - in fact the cloud world
is moving away from direct root access and so should we - at least for compatibility reasons
if not something else.

I am happy to put some more elbow grease into openvm.eu and make some more/better templates.


I can also host other templates such as the cloud.com ones.

Open to comments, questions etc.

Lucian

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Nux!
www.nux.ro

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chiradeep Vittal" <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> To: "dev" <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, 25 February, 2017 00:18:48
> Subject: Re: Modern template hosting

> Also CentOS KVM images can be obtained here:
> http://cloud.centos.org/centos/7/images/
> 
> If these work, then the only question is where to host the systemvm images.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed that Ubuntu provides daily builds, including VHDs. Perhaps we
>> could point the default templates to their URL? Anyone willing to quickly
>> try out their images to see if they work on ACS?
>>
>> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> unfortunately the template mirror conversation got caught up in details
>>> and
>>> nobody took the lead on implementing a solution.
>>>
>>> citrix has been pinging me every couple months to say 'dude, we need to
>>> remove the dependency on download.citrix.com', but i have not had the
>>> cycles to get in and solve the problem.  the shutdown of that is imminent
>>> right now, so we need to solve it asap.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Will STEVENS*
>>> Lead Developer
>>>
>>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Nathan,
>>> >
>>> > Ideally, if you put the template location in (or use a template defined
>>> > in)  test_data.py then the actual location can be overridden by anyone
>>> > testing.
>>> >
>>> > For Trillian, we've copied all of the templates that people have define
>>> to
>>> > a local repo and then replace the URLs in test_data.py to reduce
>>> bandwidth
>>> > use and download times.
>>> >
>>> > Ie:
>>> >
>>> >             "bootableIso":
>>> >                 {
>>> >                     "displaytext": "Test Bootable ISO",
>>> >                     "name": "testISO",
>>> >                     "bootable": True,
>>> >                     "ispublic": False,
>>> >                     "url": "{{ marvin_images_location
>>> > }}/TinyCore-current.iso",
>>> >                     "ostype": 'Other Linux (64-bit)',
>>> >                     "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD'
>>> >         },
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I thought that we had come up with a solution for download.cloud.com,
>>> by
>>> > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community Apache 'space' with anyone able
>>> to
>>> > out themselves forward as a mirror.
>>> > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the requisite
>>> changes
>>> > in code....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> > Paul Angus
>>> >
>>> > paul.angus@shapeblue.com
>>> > www.shapeblue.com
>>> > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> > @shapeblue
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: williamstevens@gmail.com [mailto:williamstevens@gmail.com] On
>>> > Behalf Of Will Stevens
>>> > Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30
>>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> > Subject: Re: Modern template hosting
>>> >
>>> > this is a hard questions.  in general, we should be setting up a mirror
>>> on
>>> > some cloudstack/apache domain and then mirror to other provided
>>> templates.
>>> >
>>> > we MUST come up with a solution to deprecate 'download.cloud.com', that
>>> > is going to be going away any day now.
>>> >
>>> > i don't know the right way to solve this to be honest, but if you have
>>> > ideas, i am willing to help.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *Will STEVENS*
>>> > Lead Developer
>>> >
>>> > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Nathan Johnson <njohnson@ena.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > So not to re-open a can of worms, but I’m in a situation where I
need
>>> > > to come up with a Marvin component test that depends on a template
>>> > > based on a kernel that’s relatively new, i.e., newer than Centos
5.3 /
>>> > Ubuntu 10.04 .
>>> > > I see openvm.eu has a suitable template (Ubuntu 16.0.4 for KVM), but
>>> > > from looking at the thread "Migrating CloudStack content from
>>> > > download.cloud.com” it looks like there is resistance to using this
>>> at
>>> > > least for hosting system vm templates over concerns of neutrality.
>>> > > Would this be suitable for a component test?  If not, what is a
>>> “blessed”
>>> > > template location?
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks in advance!
>>> > >
>>> > > Nathan Johnson
>>> > > R&D Engineer
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > 618 Grassmere Park Drive, Suite 12
>>> > > Nashville, TN 37211
>>> > > General Office: 615-312-6000
>>> > >
>>> > > website | blog | support
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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