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From Marco Sinhoreli <marco.sinhor...@shapeblue.com>
Subject Re: CS Collab Conf Brazil page is down
Date Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:51:53 GMT
Hi Aldrey, Mike and Nicolas.

Thank you for sharing yours points of view.

Last year, as I told you all before, many companies give up to sponsor the CCC by budget cut
due to the economic and political crisis in Brazil. We tried until the last time to do that
but the situation was really unsustainable to realize the event due to lack of sponsors. We
confirmed March 20-21 with the venue but I agree the @Will arguments about the insufficient
time until the dates proposed and for these dates are very close to the ApacheCon NA. 

We are working very close to the University and the community members to bring the CCC in
Brazil. Our country is quite lacking in CCC level events and it will be a differential for
many IT people. I personally admire a lot of you from this community and I see a huge differential
compared to the others. As one old saying goes, "It's better quality than quantity," and that's
exactly what I see in each of you. I have taken this message in several places that have visited
and shown the honesty of the Apache CloudStack project for businesses and users. From my side,
I will do my best to get the CCC in Brazil and didn't disappoint you. The Brazilian market
already shows improvements and I feel that we will have sponsors to really make an incredible
CCC. 

IMHO, following Will's thoughts and considering the Mike’s recommendation, September is
the month most recommended for the CCC. 

Considering September the CCC date, we have from our side these tasks:
1- Put the website up
2- Open the CFP 
3- Advertise to the community
4- Define the minimum and maximum event size based on budget from sponsors
5- Documents needed to visa (when applied)
6- Hotels around the venue and discounts

Please, yours comments are very appreciated!

Best regards,

Marco Sinhoreli
Managing Consultant
marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com
mobile: +55 21 98276 3636
 
Praia de Botafogo 501, bloco 1 - sala 101 – Botafogo
Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brazil - CEP 22250-040
office: + 55 21 2586 6390 | fax: +55 21 2586 6002
http://www.shapeblue.com/ | twitter: @shapeblue







Em [DATE], "[NAME]" <[ADDRESS]> escreveu:

>Hi,
>
>I am personally OK with the event taking place in March, August, or September (i.e. any
of the dates you've suggested).
>
>It might be a bit tight for March if the call for participation is not yet open.
>
>Also, I wonder if August might be tough for a bunch of people, though, as they may be
on vacation.
>
>Let's keep the communication flowing with regards to this event. I know I am very eager
to attend it and I'm guessing others are, as well.
>
>Thanks!
>Mike
>
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Nicolas Vazquez <nicovazquez90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marco and all,
>> 
>> Thanks for answering about this event!
>> 
>> I would like to mention some things that, from my point of view, could be
>> improved by sharing my own experience. First of all, I think there has been
>> lack of communication about this event. Personally, I've been looking
>> forward to attend this event since last year, and the only official
>> announcement was that event has to be rescheduled. As I needed to change
>> flight tickets dates, I needed official information about the rescheduled
>> event dates and couldn't find it on web page as it's been down or not
>> updated. Luckly, I could communicate with Shapeblue people who helped me
>> confirming the dates of the event for March so I could reschedule flight
>> tickets on time (before September 28th). I think that they had to be
>> announced last year so that everybody could be aware of new dates and had
>> time to prepare for this CCC and could attend.
>> 
>> In my opinion, I would like that event will be held on March, but, if you
>> think it should have to be rescheduled again, can you please announce it or
>> update web page? I know this things require extra time and effort, but I
>> think that improving communication we can have a really nice CCC in Latin
>> America.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Nicolas Vazquez
>> 
>> 2017-01-17 12:51 GMT-03:00 Marco Sinhoreli <marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com>:
>> 
>>> Hi Will and all.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
>>> 
>>> The event day is booked but we have flexibility to change the dates.
>>> Professor Rubens Queiroz from Unicamp agrees to change the date to 3rd
>>> quarter. He suggested August or September in order to have enough time and
>>> to get rid of eventual overlapping with other IT event dates and to prepare
>>> our first CCC-BR. Our wish is to have an event with wide community
>>> participation and I agree with yours arguments.
>>> 
>>> The dates they have available on the 3rd quarter are:
>>> August 09th - 10th
>>> September 18th - 19th
>>> 
>>> In August there are 3 auditoriums in both days and September 3 auditoriums
>>> in 18th and 2 in 19th.
>>> 
>>> The event will be transmitted online and the videos will be recorded. ASAP
>>> we have the website with CFP online, we will communicate to you all.
>>> 
>>> I want that we all make this decision together as a community. For this
>>> reason, please, thoughts and suggestions from all of you are very welcome.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marco Sinhoreli
>>> Managing Consultant
>>> marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com
>>> mobile: +55 21 98276 3636
>>> 
>>> Praia de Botafogo 501, bloco 1 - sala 101 – Botafogo
>>> Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brazil - CEP 22250-040
>>> office: + 55 21 2586 6390 | fax: +55 21 2586 6002
>>> http://www.shapeblue.com/ | twitter: @shapeblue
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Em [DATE], "[NAME]" <[ADDRESS]> escreveu:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Marco,
>>>> So if I understand correctly, you plan to keep the dates of March 20-21
>>>> because that is when you have the venue booked.  You are focusing mainly
>>> on
>>>> local ACS users, but others are obviously welcome assuming they can make
>>>> the trip.  I agree that it makes sense to market it as a CCC because that
>>>> is how our marketing channels are currently setup and we can give you the
>>>> best exposure that way.
>>>> 
>>>> There will be some contention with dates, but I think that is likely OK.
>>> I
>>>> think you will be pulling a pretty large local crowd and the ApacheCon
>>>> Miami event will likely pull more of the North American crowd with a few
>>>> from Europe.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you have your new website up, send us the IP address and we will get
>>>> br.cloudstackcollab.org pointed at it.  I will update the
>>>> cloudstackcollab.org website to reflect your new dates and the website
>>> once
>>>> it is available.
>>>> 
>>>> Let us know how else we can support your event.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Will
>>>> 
>>>> *Will STEVENS*
>>>> Lead Developer
>>>> 
>>>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Marco Sinhoreli <
>>>> marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have tried to get another cloudstack event going but had the problem
>>>>> previously with the venue pulling out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Our initial intention was to do another cloudstack day, like our really
>>>>> successful one in 2014. The idea then came to turn it into a more
>>>>> international event (aka CCC).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem is that the planning cycles in Brasil  are shorter than for
>>>>> international events.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We had over 300 people from our local community at the last one and
>>>>> hopefully will get similar here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have now had the offer of this venue for these dates. We would still
>>>>> like to have this event, and everybody in the community is  welcome,
>>> but it
>>>>> may be difficult to  "think" of it as a CCC (i.e. we still carry  on
>>> with
>>>>> it, but acknowledge that  it may clash with other events and it may be
>>>>> difficult for international people to attend)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marco Sinhoreli
>>>>> Managing Consultant
>>>>> marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com
>>>>> mobile: +55 21 98276 3636
>>>>> 
>>>>> Praia de Botafogo 501, bloco 1 - sala 101 – Botafogo
>>>>> Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brazil - CEP 22250-040
>>>>> office: + 55 21 2586 6390 | fax: +55 21 2586 6002
>>>>> http://www.shapeblue.com/ | twitter: @shapeblue
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Em [DATE], "[NAME]" <[ADDRESS]> escreveu:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree with Will. There may not be much time to prepare for if the
>>> event
>>>>> is planned for March. I look forward to more details on the event soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Raj
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: williamstevens@gmail.com <williamstevens@gmail.com> on
behalf of
>>>>> Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:02:48 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: CS Collab Conf Brazil page is down
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank for following up Marco,
>>>>>> I am a bit worried about the timing since I think we are looking
to
>>> try to
>>>>>> make a presence at ApacheCon in Miami on May 16-18.  It may be hard
to
>>>>> fill
>>>>>> both events...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How far have you guys gotten in your planning?  I have not seen
>>> anything
>>>>>> recently on the lists regarding things like requesting speakers and
>>> such.
>>>>>> Keep in mind that anyone coming from india has to have everything
in
>>> order
>>>>>> more than a month in advance because it takes over a month to get
a
>>> visa
>>>>> to
>>>>>> leave the country.  They will also need to know that their talks
are
>>>>>> accepted when they apply for a visa, so you have to have your schedule
>>>>>> pretty much ironed out by the first week of Feb to hit those dates.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let me know if you have questions...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Will
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Will STEVENS*
>>>>>> Lead Developer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Marco Sinhoreli <
>>>>>> marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The event will happen. Because of the economic crisis in Brazil
last
>>>>> year,
>>>>>>> it was unsustainable to hold the event.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We got the venue in a public university (Unicamp)[1] for the
event
>>> to be
>>>>>>> held this year during 20 - 21 March. They are very happy to welcome
>>>>>>> everyone there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are migrating the web page to another server and we will need
to
>>>>>>> register a dns entry for br.cloudstackcollab.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unicamp as well will help technically the CloudStack project
>>> providing a
>>>>>>> Ph.D. group to implement IPv6. They will start the development
in
>>> March.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Campinas
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marco Sinhoreli
>>>>>>> Managing Consultant
>>>>>>> marco.sinhoreli@shapeblue.com
>>>>>>> mobile: +55 21 98276 3636
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Praia de Botafogo 501, bloco 1 - sala 101 – Botafogo
>>>>>>> Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brazil - CEP 22250-040
>>>>>>> office: + 55 21 2586 6390 | fax: +55 21 2586 6002
>>>>>>> http://www.shapeblue.com/ | twitter: @shapeblue
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Em [DATE], "[NAME]" <[ADDRESS]> escreveu:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If that event is not happening in Brazil, I propose we have
on in
>>> the
>>>>> bay
>>>>>>> area?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: williamstevens@gmail.com <williamstevens@gmail.com>
on
>>> behalf of
>>>>>>> Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 10:57:29 AM
>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: CS Collab Conf Brazil page is down
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't think that CCC is actually going to happen.  My
>>> understanding
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> that they had problems getting the event off the ground.
 We have
>>>>> tried to
>>>>>>>> reach out to them a few times and no one seems to be able
to get a
>>>>>>> response
>>>>>>>> (or at least a straight answer) about what is going on.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am assuming that event is not going to happen at this point.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I currently manage http://cloudstackcollab.org/.  Should
I remove
>>> it
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> this site?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS*
>>>>>>>> Lead Developer
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Nicolás Vázquez <
>>>>> nicovazquez90@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I noticed http://cloudstack.usp.br/ is down, is it another
URL
>>> for
>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> event?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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