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From Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com
Date Tue, 01 Nov 2016 18:25:55 GMT
I believe that there is already a new site, but the software still points
to download.cloud.com.  There was also discussion about
 - building mirror sites instead of a SPOF site
 - eliminating the automatic download of templates and updating the
documentation on use of offline templates.
Older releases may not be changed, but users need to be notified and
documentation needs to be updated and publicized.

Thread here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cloudstack-dev/201605.mbox/thread?4

We should ask for the download.cloud.com site to be taken offline for 24
hours to see how many people scream, perhaps then the community will swing
into action?



On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Rajesh Ramchandani <
rajesh.ramchandani@accelerite.com> wrote:

> Are we looking for new server to host this site?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:46 PM -0700, "Chiradeep Vittal" <
> chiradeepv@gmail.com<mailto:chiradeepv@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Bumping this. Any progress on this? download.cloud.com is not an Apache
> property and is subject to the whims of its owner (Citrix).
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Any progress on this? There's nearly a 100K downloads of systemvm
> > templates from download.cloud.com per month. Would be a shame to leave
> > these folks stranded.
> >
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> +1.  we need to figure out the way forward, but this needs to be done
> >> 'right' not just 'fast'.
> >>
> >>
> >> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> >> @shapeblue
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Raja Pullela [mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
> >> Sent: 31 May 2016 07:33
> >> To: CloudStack Dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com
> >>
> >> +1, hope we will be able to discuss this at the Collab this week and
> >> decide on the next steps.
> >>
> >> best,
> >> Raja Pullela
> >> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >> Accelerate,
> >> 2055,Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,@accelerite<http://www.
> accelerite.com,@accelerite>
> >>
> >> > On May 31, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I hope this gets discussed during the CloudStack Collab over the next
> >> > few days. Again, I'd urge everybody to consider: "what if
> >> > download.cloud.com went away next week". Waiting till some
> >> > hypothetical last date only means that we will scramble a week before
> >> that last date.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Chiradeep Vittal
> >> > <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Yes, the mirror site would be on github or apache.org
> >> >>
> >> >> Step 6 in the install guide would have instructions like:
> >> >> a. Install System VM Templates:
> >> >> <here, cloud-install-sys-tmplt has been modified to use the mirror
> >> >> list> b. Installing other templates cloud-install-tmplt
> >> >>> enter OS (linux only)
> >> >>> Ubuntu 16.04
> >> >>   ....Installing...
> >> >>
> >> >> Or, step (b) could generate a cloudmonkey script.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Cant we just host the mirror list in apache.org and then actually
> >> >>> host the mirrors in different places around the world?  A company
> >> >>> could sponsor the few bucks a month for AWS and have one of the
> >> >>> mirrors be in AWS and the mirror list in apache.org would just be
> >> >>> updated to add the AWS mirror.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Isn't that basically what we are proposing here?  The ability to
> >> >>> have different mirrors with the 'official' endpoint being in an
> >> >>> apache.org endpoint to list the mirrors?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> *Will STEVENS*
> >> >>> Lead Developer
> >> >>>
> >> >>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >> >>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|*
> >> >>> tw @CloudOps_
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland
> >> >>> <daan.hoogland@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> is there no way, within foundation bylaws, to host this somewhere
> >> >>>> on apache.org? we are using peoples wibesites for tests as well,
> >> >>>> aren't
> >> >>> we.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner <
> >> >>>> rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> We could host a mirror here. We are in South America, Brazil.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >> >>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier
> >> >>>>>> (templates.cloudstack.org),
> >> >>>> but
> >> >>>>> I
> >> >>>>>> realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no legal
> >> >>>> entity
> >> >>>>>> for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a
> >> >>> contract
> >> >>>>> with
> >> >>>>>> AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month).  To make this work,
> >> >>>>>> alternatives:
> >> >>>>>> (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to
> >> >>> operate
> >> >>>>> this
> >> >>>>>> bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to
> >> >>>>>> support
> >> >>> this
> >> >>>>>> bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> (2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity etc
> >> >>>>>> and
> >> >>>> ACS
> >> >>>>>> users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the
> >> >>> bucket.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a much
> >> >>> better
> >> >>>>>> idea :)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Raise of hands:
> >> >>>>>> Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and default
> >> >>>>>> templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the
> >> >>> world,
> >> >>>>>> especially in East Asia.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> [1]
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python-
> script-to-test-d
> >> >>> ownload-mirrors/
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >> >>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient insecure
> >> >>>>>>> templates!
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >> >>>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> :) According to Raja, there is some time before
> >> >>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>> is
> >> >>>>>>>> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend that
> >> >>> it
> >> >>>> is
> >> >>>>>> Dec
> >> >>>>>>>> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and what
> >> >>> not.
> >> >>>>>> Now,
> >> >>>>>>>> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this done
> >> >>>>>> yesterday!
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland <
> >> >>>>> daan.hoogland@gmail.com
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence On 20 May 2016
> >> >>>>>>>>> 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation process.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to
> >> >>>>>>>>>> platform
> >> >>>>>>>>> adoption.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a
> >> >>>>>>>>>> good
> >> >>>>>>>>> milestone
> >> >>>>>>>>> in a CloudStack build.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the
> >> >>>> template
> >> >>>>>>>>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation
> >> >>> step.
> >> >>>>>>>>> great idea, looking forward to your PR.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> >> >>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06
> >> >>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >> >>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry is
> >> >>>> over.
> >> >>>>>> acs
> >> >>>>>>>>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s
> >> >>>>>>>>> not
> >> >>> put
> >> >>>>> it
> >> >>>>>>>>> in a
> >> >>>>>>>>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >> >>>>>>>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have to define "worry" :)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing an almost identical step to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-
> installation/e
> >> >>> n/
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume they
> >> >>>> can
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> download the default template in a similar manner. The
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>>>> mirror
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> checking etc.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens <
> >> >>>>>> wstevens@cloudops.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I definitely agree with this.  I don't think people doing
> >> >>> a
> >> >>>> PoC
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to worry about getting a template installed on first
> >> >>> setup.
> >> >>>> I
> >> >>>>>>>>> think
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption.
> >> >>>> Getting
> >> >>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> first boot process from download to first VM launched
> >> >>> should
> >> >>>> be
> >> >>>>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> smooth as
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> possible.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS*
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w
> >> >>>> cloudops.com
> >> >>>>>> *|*
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tw @CloudOps_
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> <daan.hoogland@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiradeep,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes sense not to have this old default very
> >> >>> insecure
> >> >>>>> guest
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> template
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some
> >> >>> kind
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> meta-data pointing to the latest version of an
> >> >>> acceptable
> >> >>>>>>>>> template
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on
> >> >>>> their
> >> >>>>>> way.
> >> >>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I meant the auto-download of default templates, not
> >> >>>>> systemvm.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the initial systemvm template has to be
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand-downloaded
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all
> >> >>>> that
> >> >>>>>> is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> needed.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> pdion@cloudops.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>> systemvm
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> template,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has this should be simplify deployment of a
> >> >>> cloudstack
> >> >>>>>>>>> system.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although, the download URL should be a configurable
> >> >>>>> value,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> in a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property file or thru the API somehow or via a
> >> >>>>> pre-install
> >> >>>>>>>>> command.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like  download.cloudstack.org + mirror.
> >> >>> I'm
> >> >>>>>> looking
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new
> >> >>> Jenkins
> >> >>>>> and I
> >> >>>>>>>>> got
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain
> >> >>> for
> >> >>>>>>>>> community
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> services
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sure we would be ok to use
> >> >>>>> download.cloudstack.org,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting this up? on the current webserver of our
> >> >>>> website?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PL
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree on the existing users - not the end of the
> >> >>>>> world.
> >> >>>>>>>>> We
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> could
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release a tiny patch to update the DB records
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The piece that we need to be really careful with
> >> >>> is
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> just
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded cloudstack  thing for the first time"
> >> >>>>> scenario
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas
> >> >>> flowing
> >> >>>> on
> >> >>>>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com<
> http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N
> >> >>> 4HSUK
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbolous@gmail.com]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say
> >> >>> that
> >> >>>>> this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate db
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> records.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should ensure that we have some good posts
> >> >>>>> discovered
> >> >>>>>> by
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Google
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other search engines, so that when somebody
> >> >>> running
> >> >>>> old
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> installations
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue they find the workaround.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a lot of time to reach out to users and
> >> >>>> inform
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fix necessary.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured
> >> >>> out
> >> >>>>>>>>> before
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix
> >> >>>>>> committed
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another year ?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on
> >> >>>> this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build/startup and then periodically if people do
> >> >>>>> things
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, users environments aren't going to stop if
> >> >>> its
> >> >>>>>>>>> pulled,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a able to build/install cloudstack and
> >> >>> it
> >> >>>>> may
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> issues
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when users make config changes
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded :
> >> >>>> you
> >> >>>>>>>>> start
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sec
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the
> >> >>>> built
> >> >>>>>> in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> template
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that its simple db  change
> >> >>> to
> >> >>>>> make
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once an
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a
> >> >>>> code
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> fix
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial install
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #notideal
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the
> >> >>>> project
> >> >>>>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> key
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software working, however my understanding is it
> >> >>>>>> involves
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> binaries
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party
> >> >>>>>> binaries)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - so
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wont happen
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which
> >> >>> we
> >> >>>> all
> >> >>>>>> owe
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks)  - but you are right, it is a 3rd party
> >> >>>>>>>>> dependency
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguably a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPOF.  But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're
> >> >>> always
> >> >>>>>> going
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we could patch the code to point somewhere
> >> >>>> else -
> >> >>>>>> but
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> ? -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition its got to be something maintained
> >> >>> by a
> >> >>>>> 3rd
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had this debate some time ago when talking
> >> >>> about
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers,
> >> >>>> which
> >> >>>>>>>>> wev'e
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> always
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as public. However, there were concerns about
> >> >>>> having
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> domain
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which I understand) - so apt-get became our
> >> >>>>> preferred
> >> >>>>>>>>> repo.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts on how to fix this:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host
> >> >>> entry
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloudstack.org.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its under their domain, but with the site being
> >> >>>> with
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>>>>>> 3rd
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> party
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be allowed
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the
> >> >>>> current
> >> >>>>>> DNS
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entry
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location (would be simplest but may be legally
> >> >>>>> complex
> >> >>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> relies
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ongoing goodwill)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the
> >> >>> download
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location on
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the
> >> >>> SPOF,
> >> >>>> we
> >> >>>>>>>>> could
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> get
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates copied to a number of 3rd party
> >> >>> locations
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose which one they use
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com<
> http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N
> >> >>> 4HSUK
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: williamstevens@gmail.com [mailto:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> williamstevens@gmail.com]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Will Stevens
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than
> >> >>>> that.
> >> >>>>>> We
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going forward and we can move everything from
> >> >>> there
> >> >>>>>> over
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> new
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the problem is with all of the
> >> >>> existing
> >> >>>> ACS
> >> >>>>>> or
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCP
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> installs
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there currently pointing at the
> >> >>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>> URL,
> >> >>>>>>>>> so
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> when
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down, those installs have to be updated.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> am
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from this thread.  Can this be confirmed?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS*
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6
> >> >>> w
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudops.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *|*
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tw
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @CloudOps_
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <irae@cloudops.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>> (rather
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerning)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of dependency on the operation of the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it not make sense to use a domain that is
> >> >>> under
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> party
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose alignment with CloudStack will not
> >> >>> shift. I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache
> >> >>>>>>>>> Foundation,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but perhaps the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fabled
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack alliance organization would be a
> >> >>> good
> >> >>>>> way
> >> >>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> handle
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raja.pullela@accelerite.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust me, it won't be go away overnight.  We
> >> >>>> are
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requested them to keep it active for another
> >> >>>> year.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have the content copied over (I will
> >> >>>> work
> >> >>>>>>>>> with
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wido
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verify
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (user
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides update and create a wiki to show how an
> >> >>>>>> existing
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can fixed to point to new URLs) we don't have
> >> >>> a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> on "
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com" -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right?  sorry, if I am missing something here?
> >> >>>>>> Please
> >> >>>>>>>>> let
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> me
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >> >>> Accelerite,
> >> >>>>>> 2055,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com<
> http://www.accelerite.com>,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Raja,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I humbly suggest that someone at
> >> >>> Accelerite
> >> >>>>>>>>> speaks
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how long the content will remain on
> >> >>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>> ?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply losing the content on
> >> >>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overnight
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone look bad
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com<
> http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London
> >> >>> WC2N
> >> >>>>> 4HSUK
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content
> >> >>> from
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are right, this change impacts both
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform customers.  Not sure, if I
> >> >>>> understand
> >> >>>>>> you
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move away from "download.cloud.com" is
> >> >>>>> permanent.  I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> know
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long the content on download.cloud.com will
> >> >>> be
> >> >>>>>>>>> up/available.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on Wido's availability, we can get
> >> >>> rest
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> content
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this
> >> >>> week ?
> >> >>>>>>>>> BTW,
> >> >>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com is left as is and will
> >> >>> stay
> >> >>>> as
> >> >>>>> is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides on what to do with it.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >> >>> Accelerite,
> >> >>>>>> 2055,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com<
> http://www.accelerite.com>,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As this effects every copy of CloudStack
> >> >>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was.  Please may I ask how long we have to
> >> >>>> manage a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> away
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from download.cloud.com?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com<
> http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London
> >> >>> WC2N
> >> >>>>>> 4HSUK
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content
> >> >>> from
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the additional file details
> >> >>> and
> >> >>>> I
> >> >>>>>> will
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> request
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wido
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy these as well.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I agree with you there is every copy
> >> >>> of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> out
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason why I have requested Wido to download
> >> >>> all
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>> old
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> files
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like we missed few and get these
> >> >>> uploaded
> >> >>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>>> well.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that Citrix owns the "
> >> >>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com"
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> address
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to get all the CloudStack related content
> >> >>>> from
> >> >>>>>>>>> there.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm on the content move Citrix may choose
> >> >>> to
> >> >>>>>> remove
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the location.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I will get in touch with Wido
> >> >>> again
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>>>>>> do
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that we have everything.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >> >>>> Accelerite,
> >> >>>>>>>>> 2055,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com<
> http://www.accelerite.com>
> >> >>> ,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just picked up on this.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are a number of URLs which are
> >> >>>> hardcoded
> >> >>>>>> into
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database for the small built-in templates.
> >> >>> These
> >> >>>>> are
> >> >>>>>>>>> in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every copy of CloudStack out there.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb-
> ae94-4f97
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -afd
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-f8
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 755767aca.vhd.bz2
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875-
> 3c8d-92
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be-c
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 001b
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8a0faf.qcow2.bz2
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56-
> x86_64.vh
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.bz
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7-
> x86_64.ta
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r.gz
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These will need copying and the CloudStack
> >> >>>> code
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updating
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you can deprecate
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents for some time, without causing a lot
> >> >>> of
> >> >>>>>> issues
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> users.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Short Term - all the content has moved to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which sections to be modified?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Install Guide needs to be modified.
> >> >>>> Sample
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> links/details
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to
> >> >>> be
> >> >>>>>>>>> updated
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Released versions of Cloudstack
> >> >>>> documentation:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-
> installa
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /en/
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4
> >> >>> .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section - Downloading vhd-util¶
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What to do modified ?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify URL from
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Rajsekhar can you please update the
> >> >>>> sections ?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accelerite,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2055, Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA
> >> >>>> 95054,
> >> >>>>>> USA
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,
> >> >>> www.accelerite.com<http://www.accelerite.com>,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >> >>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London
> >> >>> WC2N
> >> >>>>>> 4HSUK
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