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From: Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 15:58:02 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
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Ya, I can't find anything either.  So that means that we would be working
with the API of each component, which I don't really like.  It means we
don't have a single API endpoint to handle things like IPSec, etc (or even
an API at all for a lot of the functionality).  :(

*Will STEVENS*
Lead Developer

*CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
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On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Marty Godsey <marty@gonsource.com> wrote:

> Since Cloudrouter has a full distro for Opendaylight would you use that
> for the API? But I can't find anything about the Cloudrouter API if it does
> have one.
>
> Regards,
> Marty Godsey
> nSource Solutions
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: williamstevens@gmail.com [mailto:williamstevens@gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Will Stevens
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 3:48 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
>
> I can't seem to find any API documentation for CloudRouter.  Maybe my
> Google foo is weak.  Has anyone else found any usable docs on that?
>
> *Will STEVENS*
> Lead Developer
>
> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|* tw
> @CloudOps_
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Nux! <nux@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I like the idea.
> >
> > Cloudrouter looks really promising, I'm not too keen on VyOS (it
> > doesn't have a proper http api etc).
> >
> > --
> > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> >
> > Nux!
> > www.nux.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Will Stevens" <williamstevens@gmail.com>
> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Sent: Monday, 12 September, 2016 21:20:11
> > > Subject: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
> >
> > > *Disclaimer:* This is a thought experiment and should be treated as
> such.
> > > Please weigh in with the good and bad of this idea...
> > >
> > > A couple of us have been discussing the idea of potentially
> > > replacing the ACS VR with the VyOS [1] (Open Source Vyatta VM).
> > > There may be a license issue because I think it is licensed under
> > > GPL, but for the sake of discussion, let's assume we can overcome any
> license issues.
> > >
> > > I have spent some time recently with the VyOS and I have to admit, I
> > > was pretty impressed.  It is simple and intuitive and it gives you a
> > > lot more options for auditing the configuration etc...
> > >
> > > Items of potential interest:
> > > - Clean up our current VR script spaghetti to a simpler more
> > > auditable configuration workflow.
> > > - Gives a cleaner path for IPv6 support.
> > > - Handles VPN configuration via the same configuration interface.
> > > - Support for OSPF & BGP.
> > > - VPN support through OpenVPN & StrongSwan.
> > > - Easily supports HA (redundant routers) through VRRP.
> > > - VXLAN support.
> > > - Transaction based changes to the VR with rollback on error.
> > >
> > > Items that could be difficult to solve:
> > > - Userdata password reset workflow and implementation.
> > > - Upgrade process.
> > >
> > > The VyOS is not the only option if we were to consider this approach.
> > > Another option, which I don't know as well, would be CloudRouter
> > > (AGPL
> > > license) [2] which is purely API driven.
> > >
> > > Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts...
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > [1] https://vyos.io/
> > > [2] https://cloudrouter.org/
> >
>

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