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From Marty Godsey <ma...@gonsource.com>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
Date Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:53:20 GMT
It does.. Its under Secure Connectivity.

-----Original Message-----
From: Syed Ahmed [mailto:sahmed@cloudops.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 12:49 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR

Does CloudRouter provide VPN (site-site and client)? Looking from their website I don't seem
to find it. Also, missing is VVRP for redundancy. Has anyone used it for this?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Zaeem Arshad <zaeem.arshad@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 on cloudrouter. We have been looking at this as a potential
> replacement/addon to our existing VRs.
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
> wrote:
>
> > yes, technically we should be able to just make a new VR 
> > implementation available and then when people create their network 
> > offerings, they just pick which VR implementation they want to use 
> > for the different capabilities.
> >
> > *Will STEVENS*
> > Lead Developer
> >
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> >
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Dustin Wright < 
> > dwright@untangledtechnology.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to see a "virtual router offering" in the UI which 
> > > lets
> you
> > > pick the legacy VR or your own. Probably a component of the 
> > > network offering. I've had many cases were I needed Mikrotik 
> > > RouterOS or
> pfSense
> > to
> > > match a clients on-premise gear. ACS should find a way to stay 
> > > agnostic IMO.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Marty Godsey 
> > > <marty@gonsource.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I like this idea as well. I would be willing to test both VyOS 
> > > > and Cloudrouter if you need an active service to test with. 
> > > > Specifically
> I
> > am
> > > > looking to test IPv6 since I provide IPv6 /64 spaces to my 
> > > > customers
> > and
> > > I
> > > > am having to provide it via an external router at the moment 
> > > > which
> has
> > a
> > > > lot of manual configurations.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know if I can help in anyway.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Will Stevens [mailto:williamstevens@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:21 AM
> > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
> > > >
> > > > Ya. If we go this way, I like the approach of building the
> integration
> > > and
> > > > putting it through its paces as a stand alone VR before we 
> > > > consider replacing the old VR and making it the default.
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 13, 2016 6:52 AM, "Jayapal Uradi" <
> jayapal.uradi@accelerite.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead of replacing the VR in first place we should add 
> > > > > VyOS/cloudrouter as provider. Once it is stable, network 
> > > > > offerings
> > (on
> > > > > upgrade) can be updated to use it and we can drop the VR if we 
> > > > > want
> > at
> > > > that release onwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > VR is stabilized over a period of time and some of them are 
> > > > > running without issues.  When we replicate the ACS VR features 
> > > > > in new
> > solution
> > > > > it takes some to find the missing pieces (hidden bugs).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Jayapal
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Nux! <
> > > > >
> > > > > > nux@li.nux.ro> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like the idea.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cloudrouter looks really promising, I'm not too keen on VyOS

> > > > > > (it doesn't
> > > > > have a proper http api etc).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nux!
> > > > > > www.nux.ro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> From: "Will Stevens" <williamstevens@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > > >> Sent: Monday, 12 September, 2016 21:20:11
> > > > > >> Subject: [DISCUSS] Replacing the VR
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> *Disclaimer:* This is a thought experiment and should be

> > > > > >> treated
> > as
> > > > > such.
> > > > > >> Please weigh in with the good and bad of this idea...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> A couple of us have been discussing the idea of potentially

> > > > > >> replacing
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> ACS VR with the VyOS [1] (Open Source Vyatta VM).  There

> > > > > >> may be
> a
> > > > > license
> > > > > >> issue because I think it is licensed under GPL, but for
the 
> > > > > >> sake
> > of
> > > > > >> discussion, let's assume we can overcome any license issues.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I have spent some time recently with the VyOS and I have
to
> admit,
> > > > > >> I was pretty impressed.  It is simple and intuitive and
it 
> > > > > >> gives you a lot
> > > > > more
> > > > > >> options for auditing the configuration etc...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Items of potential interest:
> > > > > >> - Clean up our current VR script spaghetti to a simpler

> > > > > >> more auditable configuration workflow.
> > > > > >> - Gives a cleaner path for IPv6 support.
> > > > > >> - Handles VPN configuration via the same configuration
> interface.
> > > > > >> - Support for OSPF & BGP.
> > > > > >> - VPN support through OpenVPN & StrongSwan.
> > > > > >> - Easily supports HA (redundant routers) through VRRP.
> > > > > >> - VXLAN support.
> > > > > >> - Transaction based changes to the VR with rollback on error.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Items that could be difficult to solve:
> > > > > >> - Userdata password reset workflow and implementation.
> > > > > >> - Upgrade process.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The VyOS is not the only option if we were to consider this
> > > approach.
> > > > > >> Another option, which I don't know as well, would be 
> > > > > >> CloudRouter (AGPL
> > > > > >> license) [2] which is purely API driven.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Will
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1] https://vyos.io/
> > > > > >> [2] https://cloudrouter.org/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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