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Wido, sorry if that confused you. I meant to say what John has explained.

If we can at least get the RC voting started/concluded by 15 July, I think =
we can cut a 4.9 based LTS.


Regards.

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From: John Burwell
Sent: 06 July 2016 00:46:09
To: Wido den Hollander
Cc: Rohit Yadav; dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] 2016-2017 Release Cycle and Calendar

Wido,

I don=92t think that Rohit is advocating expanding the 4.9.0 scope.  Instea=
d, he is saying that proceeding with LTS on 4.8.0.1 would be counterproduct=
ive.  4.8.0 was released in January meaning that 4.9 will contain nearly 6 =
months of defect fixes and enhancements.  Had we cut LTS last Friday, we wo=
uld have faced the choice of attempting to backport all of the defect chang=
es from master to LTS or simply not including them.  Therefore, I think we =
all agree that we should release 4.9.0.0 as soon as possible.  My hope is t=
hat we can complete testing and RC voting by 15 July 2016 in order to cut L=
TS and move forward with the development of 4.10.0.0.  Am I correct in my u=
nderstanding Rohit and your thoughts regarding 4.9?

Thanks,
-John

>


john.burwell@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>


On Jul 5, 2016, at 5:25 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>> Op 4 juli 2016 om 18:17 schreef Rohit Yadav <rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com>:
>>
>>
>> I think 4.9 brings some new features, enhancements and improvements that=
 people would appreciate in a LTS release. Many of them cannot be simply ba=
ckported and 2 weeks will be far shorter to identify, backport and regressi=
on-test all those changes.
>>
>
> But that way we keep finding reasons to delay 4.9 and make that the LTS. =
4.10 afterwards will have other cool features, etc. That will stay.
>
>>
>> From my personal experience, I've done a lot of backporting in 4.3, then=
 did maintenance work in 4.5. I think it's still worth it to wait for few w=
eeks to get 4.9.0 out of the door and have LTS based on 4.9.0 release.
>>
>>
>> If Will is not able to find time to work on 4.9 release, maybe someone e=
lse can takeover and help with the 4.9 release by 15th July (at least get s=
ome RCs up for testing and voting)? LTS can be 4.9.1 etc.
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
>> Sent: 04 July 2016 15:32:45
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; John Burwell
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] 2016-2017 Release Cycle and Calendar
>>
>>
>>> Op 4 juli 2016 om 6:57 schreef John Burwell <john.burwell@shapeblue.com=
>:
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Following up on a our discussions about LTS [1], post 4.9 releases [2],=
 and 5.0.0/6.0.0 [3], I have assembled a release plan for the next 18-20 mo=
nths in the wiki [4].  My original proposal assumed by that 4.9 would be re=
leased by 1 July.  I have adjusted the timelines assuming that we will comp=
lete the release by 15 July.  My thinking is that the number of defect fixe=
s present in 4.9 and 4.8.1 would require more than 2 weeks of work to backp=
ort to a 4.8-based LTS.  Therefore, I have shifted the LTS cutoff dates fro=
m 1 Jan and 1 July to 15 Jan and 15 July.
>>>
>>> Once we gain consensus on the release cycle and calendar, I will cleanu=
p the wiki to move completed release plans to an archive area and remove ob=
solete release process documentation.
>>>
>>
>> Looks good to me. It's time that 4.9 is released and shifting to July 15=
th looks good.
>>
>> Overall your release schedule proposal looks good to me, so I'd say +1 o=
n the proposal.
>>
>> Wido
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -John
>>>
>>> [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/zzrjldiryhy3ygfk
>>> [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7rv3jwz4hzf3yplf
>>> [3]: http://markmail.org/thread/c24hvshz3z4babjb
>>> [4]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/%5BPROPOSAL=
%5D+2016-2017+Release+Cycle+and+Calendar<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluenc=
e/display/CLOUDSTACK/[PROPOSAL]+2016-2017+Release+Cycle+and+Calendar>
>>>
>>> john.burwell@shapeblue.com
>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London VA WC2N 4HSUK
>>> @shapeblue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> rohit.yadav@shapeblue.com
>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>> @shapeblue


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