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From Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com
Date Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:44:32 GMT
Any progress on this? There's nearly a 100K downloads of systemvm templates
from download.cloud.com per month. Would be a shame to leave these folks
stranded.

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
wrote:

> +1.  we need to figure out the way forward, but this needs to be done
> 'right' not just 'fast'.
>
>
> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raja Pullela [mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
> Sent: 31 May 2016 07:33
> To: CloudStack Dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com
>
> +1, hope we will be able to discuss this at the Collab this week and
> decide on the next steps.
>
> best,
> Raja Pullela
> Senior Manager, Product Development
> Accelerate,
> 2055,Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,@accelerite
>
> > On May 31, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I hope this gets discussed during the CloudStack Collab over the next
> > few days. Again, I'd urge everybody to consider: "what if
> > download.cloud.com went away next week". Waiting till some
> > hypothetical last date only means that we will scramble a week before
> that last date.
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Chiradeep Vittal
> > <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, the mirror site would be on github or apache.org
> >>
> >> Step 6 in the install guide would have instructions like:
> >> a. Install System VM Templates:
> >> <here, cloud-install-sys-tmplt has been modified to use the mirror
> >> list> b. Installing other templates cloud-install-tmplt
> >>> enter OS (linux only)
> >>> Ubuntu 16.04
> >>   ....Installing...
> >>
> >> Or, step (b) could generate a cloudmonkey script.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Cant we just host the mirror list in apache.org and then actually
> >>> host the mirrors in different places around the world?  A company
> >>> could sponsor the few bucks a month for AWS and have one of the
> >>> mirrors be in AWS and the mirror list in apache.org would just be
> >>> updated to add the AWS mirror.
> >>>
> >>> Isn't that basically what we are proposing here?  The ability to
> >>> have different mirrors with the 'official' endpoint being in an
> >>> apache.org endpoint to list the mirrors?
> >>>
> >>> *Will STEVENS*
> >>> Lead Developer
> >>>
> >>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|*
> >>> tw @CloudOps_
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Daan Hoogland
> >>> <daan.hoogland@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> is there no way, within foundation bylaws, to host this somewhere
> >>>> on apache.org? we are using peoples wibesites for tests as well,
> >>>> aren't
> >>> we.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Rafael Weingärtner <
> >>>> rafaelweingartner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We could host a mirror here. We are in South America, Brazil.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier
> >>>>>> (templates.cloudstack.org),
> >>>> but
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>> realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no legal
> >>>> entity
> >>>>>> for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a
> >>> contract
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>> AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month).  To make this work,
> >>>>>> alternatives:
> >>>>>> (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to
> >>> operate
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>> bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to
> >>>>>> support
> >>> this
> >>>>>> bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity etc
> >>>>>> and
> >>>> ACS
> >>>>>> users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the
> >>> bucket.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a much
> >>> better
> >>>>>> idea :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Raise of hands:
> >>>>>> Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and default
> >>>>>> templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the
> >>> world,
> >>>>>> especially in East Asia.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python-script-to-test-d
> >>> ownload-mirrors/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient insecure
> >>>>>>> templates!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >>>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> :) According to Raja, there is some time before
> >>> download.cloud.com
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>>> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend that
> >>> it
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> Dec
> >>>>>>>> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and what
> >>> not.
> >>>>>> Now,
> >>>>>>>> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this done
> >>>>>> yesterday!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland <
> >>>>> daan.hoogland@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence On 20 May 2016
> >>>>>>>>> 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation process.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to
> >>>>>>>>>> platform
> >>>>>>>>> adoption.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a
> >>>>>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>> milestone
> >>>>>>>>> in a CloudStack build.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the
> >>>> template
> >>>>>>>>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation
> >>> step.
> >>>>>>>>> great idea, looking forward to your PR.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>> www.shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> >>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06
> >>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry is
> >>>> over.
> >>>>>> acs
> >>>>>>>>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s
> >>>>>>>>> not
> >>> put
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> in a
> >>>>>>>>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >>>>>>>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you have to define "worry" :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm proposing an almost identical step to
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/e
> >>> n/
> >>>>>>>>>>> 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume they
> >>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>> download the default template in a similar manner. The
> >>>>>>>>>>> "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do
> >>> the
> >>>>>> mirror
> >>>>>>>>>>> checking etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens <
> >>>>>> wstevens@cloudops.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I definitely agree with this.  I don't think people doing
> >>> a
> >>>> PoC
> >>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to worry about getting a template installed on first
> >>> setup.
> >>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption.
> >>>> Getting
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> first boot process from download to first VM launched
> >>> should
> >>>> be
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>> smooth as
> >>>>>>>>>>> possible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS*
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w
> >>>> cloudops.com
> >>>>>> *|*
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tw @CloudOps_
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <daan.hoogland@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiradeep,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes sense not to have this old default very
> >>> insecure
> >>>>> guest
> >>>>>>>>>>> template
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some
> >>> kind
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> meta-data pointing to the latest version of an
> >>> acceptable
> >>>>>>>>> template
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on
> >>>> their
> >>>>>> way.
> >>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
> >>>>>>>>>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I meant the auto-download of default templates, not
> >>>>> systemvm.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the initial systemvm template has to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand-downloaded
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> needed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion <
> >>>>>>>>>>> pdion@cloudops.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>> systemvm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> template,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has this should be simplify deployment of a
> >>> cloudstack
> >>>>>>>>> system.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although, the download URL should be a configurable
> >>>>> value,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>> in a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property file or thru the API somehow or via a
> >>>>> pre-install
> >>>>>>>>> command.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like  download.cloudstack.org + mirror.
> >>> I'm
> >>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new
> >>> Jenkins
> >>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain
> >>> for
> >>>>>>>>> community
> >>>>>>>>>>> services
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sure we would be ok to use
> >>>>> download.cloudstack.org,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting this up? on the current webserver of our
> >>>> website?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could we
> >>>>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PL
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree on the existing users - not the end of the
> >>>>> world.
> >>>>>>>>> We
> >>>>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release a tiny patch to update the DB records
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The piece that we need to be really careful with
> >>> is
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've
> >>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded cloudstack  thing for the first time"
> >>>>> scenario
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas
> >>> flowing
> >>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N
> >>> 4HSUK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbolous@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say
> >>> that
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't
> >>>>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate db
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> records.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We should ensure that we have some good posts
> >>>>> discovered
> >>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>> Google
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other search engines, so that when somebody
> >>> running
> >>>> old
> >>>>>>>>>>>> installations
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue they find the workaround.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a lot of time to reach out to users and
> >>>> inform
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fix necessary.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Erik
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured
> >>> out
> >>>>>>>>> before
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix
> >>>>>> committed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another year ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on
> >>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download
> >>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build/startup and then periodically if people do
> >>>>> things
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>> build
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, users environments aren't going to stop if
> >>> its
> >>>>>>>>> pulled,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a able to build/install cloudstack and
> >>> it
> >>>>> may
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause
> >>>>>>>>>>>> issues
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when users make config changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded :
> >>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> start
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sec
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the
> >>>> built
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> template
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that its simple db  change
> >>> to
> >>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a
> >>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> fix
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial install
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #notideal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the
> >>>> project
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>> key
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software working, however my understanding is it
> >>>>>> involves
> >>>>>>>>>>>> binaries
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party
> >>>>>> binaries)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - so
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wont happen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which
> >>> we
> >>>> all
> >>>>>> owe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks)  - but you are right, it is a 3rd party
> >>>>>>>>> dependency
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguably a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SPOF.  But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're
> >>> always
> >>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, we could patch the code to point somewhere
> >>>> else -
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ? -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition its got to be something maintained
> >>> by a
> >>>>> 3rd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had this debate some time ago when talking
> >>> about
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers,
> >>>> which
> >>>>>>>>> wev'e
> >>>>>>>>>>> always
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opened
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as public. However, there were concerns about
> >>>> having
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> domain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which I understand) - so apt-get became our
> >>>>> preferred
> >>>>>>>>> repo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts on how to fix this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host
> >>> entry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloudstack.org.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its under their domain, but with the site being
> >>>> with
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> 3rd
> >>>>>>>>>>> party
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be allowed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the
> >>>> current
> >>>>>> DNS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entry
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location (would be simplest but may be legally
> >>>>> complex
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> relies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ongoing goodwill)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the
> >>> download
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the
> >>> SPOF,
> >>>> we
> >>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates copied to a number of 3rd party
> >>> locations
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose which one they use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N
> >>> 4HSUK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: williamstevens@gmail.com [mailto:
> >>>>>>>>>>> williamstevens@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Will Stevens
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
> >>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than
> >>>> that.
> >>>>>> We
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going forward and we can move everything from
> >>> there
> >>>>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
> >>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the problem is with all of the
> >>> existing
> >>>> ACS
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCP
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> installs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there currently pointing at the
> >>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>> URL,
> >>>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down, those installs have to be updated.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression I
> >>>>>>>>>>> am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from this thread.  Can this be confirmed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Will STEVENS*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Developer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6
> >>> w
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudops.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *|*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tw
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @CloudOps_
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <irae@cloudops.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>> (rather
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerning)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of dependency on the operation of the
> >>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it not make sense to use a domain that is
> >>> under
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> party
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose alignment with CloudStack will not
> >>> shift. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache
> >>>>>>>>> Foundation,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but perhaps the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fabled
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack alliance organization would be a
> >>> good
> >>>>> way
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> handle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raja.pullela@accelerite.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust me, it won’t be go away overnight.  We
> >>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requested them to keep it active for another
> >>>> year.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have the content copied over (I will
> >>>> work
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wido
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verify
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (user
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides update and create a wiki to show how an
> >>>>>> existing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can fixed to point to new URLs) we don’t have
> >>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency
> >>>>>>>>>>> on “
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com” –
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right?  sorry, if I am missing something here?
> >>>>>> Please
> >>>>>>>>> let
> >>>>>>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >>> Accelerite,
> >>>>>> 2055,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" <
> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Raja,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I humbly suggest that someone at
> >>> Accelerite
> >>>>>>>>> speaks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how long the content will remain on
> >>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply losing the content on
> >>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overnight
> >>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone look bad
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London
> >>> WC2N
> >>>>> 4HSUK
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content
> >>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are right, this change impacts both
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform customers.  Not sure, if I
> >>>> understand
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move away from “download.cloud.com” is
> >>>>> permanent.  I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long the content on download.cloud.com will
> >>> be
> >>>>>>>>> up/available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on Wido’s availability, we can get
> >>> rest
> >>>> of
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this
> >>> week ?
> >>>>>>>>> BTW,
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com is left as is and will
> >>> stay
> >>>> as
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Citrix
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides on what to do with it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >>> Accelerite,
> >>>>>> 2055,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" <
> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As this effects every copy of CloudStack
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudPlatform
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was.  Please may I ask how long we have to
> >>>> manage a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> away
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from download.cloud.com?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London
> >>> WC2N
> >>>>>> 4HSUK
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raja Pullela
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content
> >>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the additional file details
> >>> and
> >>>> I
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>> request
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wido
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy these as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I agree with you there is every copy
> >>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack
> >>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason why I have requested Wido to download
> >>> all
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> old
> >>>>>>>>>>> files
> >>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like we missed few and get these
> >>> uploaded
> >>>> as
> >>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that Citrix owns the “
> >>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com”
> >>>>>>>>>>>> address
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to get all the CloudStack related content
> >>>> from
> >>>>>>>>> there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm on the content move Citrix may choose
> >>> to
> >>>>>> remove
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the location.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I will get in touch with Wido
> >>> again
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that we have everything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >>>> Accelerite,
> >>>>>>>>> 2055,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurelwood
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com
> >>> ,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" <
> >>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just picked up on this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are a number of URLs which are
> >>>> hardcoded
> >>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CloudStack
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database for the small built-in templates.
> >>> These
> >>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every copy of CloudStack out there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb-ae94-4f97
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -afd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-f8
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 755767aca.vhd.bz2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875-3c8d-92
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be-c
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 001b
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8a0faf.qcow2.bz2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56-x86_64.vh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d.bz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7-x86_64.ta
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r.gz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These will need copying and the CloudStack
> >>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updating
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you can deprecate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download.cloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contents for some time, without causing a lot
> >>> of
> >>>>>> issues
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> users.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Short Term - all the content has moved to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which sections to be modified?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Install Guide needs to be modified.
> >>>> Sample
> >>>>>>>>>>>> links/details
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to
> >>> be
> >>>>>>>>> updated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Released versions of Cloudstack
> >>>> documentation:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installa
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /en/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4
> >>> .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section - Downloading vhd-util¶
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What to do modified ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify URL from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Rajsekhar can you please update the
> >>>> sections ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raja
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Manager, Product Development
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Accelerite,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2055, Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA
> >>>> 95054,
> >>>>>> USA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 1-408-216-7010,
> >>> www.accelerite.com,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @accelerite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com
> >>> www.shapeblue.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London
> >>> WC2N
> >>>>>> 4HSUK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @shapeblue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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