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From Chiradeep Vittal <chirade...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com
Date Fri, 20 May 2016 17:01:20 GMT
I was proposing a new S3 bucket earlier (templates.cloudstack.org), but I
realized that someone needs to own the account. There is no legal entity
for Apache CloudStack (except the ASF) that can enter into a contract with
AWS (even if it is for a few bucks a month).  To make this work,
alternatives:
 (1) ASF Infra creates this bucket and IAM keys to the PMC to operate this
bucket. ACS users might want to make targeted donations to support this
bucket, but I don't believe that it is possible.

(2) Cloudstack.org gets registered as a (non-profit?) entity etc and ACS
users make donations to this entity. PMC has control over the bucket.

A mirror list and a python script (e.g., [1]) sounds like a much better
idea :)

Raise of hands:
Who is willing to host a mirror of systemvm templates and default
templates. I figure we need at least 5, preferably all over the world,
especially in East Asia.

[1]
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/284631-a-python-script-to-test-download-mirrors/





On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Agree with Daan : we shouldn't be pushing these ancient insecure
> templates!
>
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chiradeep Vittal <chiradeepv@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> :) According to Raja, there is some time before download.cloud.com is
>> doomed. Let's pretend that date is Jan 1 2017. Now pretend that it is Dec
>> 25, 2016 and we're still debating mirror list vs steps and what not. Now,
>> just change the 2017 to 2016 and re-consider. We need this done yesterday!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogland@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> send by tablet, no warranties in existence
>>> On 20 May 2016 09:29, "Paul Angus" <paul.angus@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'm a -1 on adding another step to the installation process.
>>> >
>>> > I agree with Will, it will only be another barrier to platform
>>> adoption.
>>> >
>>> > The SSVM going and downloading the built-in template is a good
>>> milestone
>>> in a CloudStack build.
>>> >
>>> > To be honest the mgmt. server should be able to go get the template
>>> itself if required rather than making it a user installation step.
>>> great idea, looking forward to your PR.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> > Paul Angus
>>> >
>>> > paul.angus@shapeblue.com
>>> > www.shapeblue.com
>>> > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> > @shapeblue
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>> > Sent: 19 May 2016 23:06
>>> > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from download.cloud.com
>>> >
>>> > sounds good, so if we put both sections together the worry is over. acs
>>> is a complex system and requires a lot of reading so let''s not put it
>>> in a
>>> different section. would be duplicate code anyhow.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
>>> chiradeepv@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Well, you have to define "worry" :)
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm proposing an almost identical step to
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installation/en/
>>> > > 4.6/management-server/#prepare-the-system-vm-template
>>> > >
>>> > > If they can do that, then it is not a stretch to assume they can
>>> > > download the default template in a similar manner. The
>>> > > "cloud-install-default-template" (proposed) script can do the mirror
>>> > > checking etc.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > I definitely agree with this.  I don't think people doing a PoC
>>> > > > should
>>> > > have
>>> > > > to worry about getting a template installed on first setup.  I
>>> think
>>> > > > that is a basic feature if we want platform adoption.  Getting the
>>> > > > first boot process from download to first VM launched should be as
>>> > > > smooth as
>>> > > possible.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > *Will STEVENS*
>>> > > > Lead Developer
>>> > > >
>>> > > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
>>> > > > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w cloudops.com *|*
>>> > > > tw @CloudOps_
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Daan Hoogland
>>> > > > <daan.hoogland@gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Chiradeep,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > It makes sense not to have this old default very insecure guest
>>> > > template
>>> > > > > still be downloaded but it would be nice to have some kind of
>>> > > > > meta-data pointing to the latest version of an acceptable
>>> template
>>> > > > > (symlink) for trial installs so PoCcers are swiftly on their way.
>>> Would you agree?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
>>> > > chiradeepv@gmail.com>
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Pierre,
>>> > > > > > I meant the auto-download of default templates, not systemvm.
>>> > > > > > Note that the initial systemvm template has to be
>>> > > > > > hand-downloaded
>>> > > > anyway.
>>> > > > > > If you are a single hypervisor cloud, then that is all that is
>>> > > needed.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion <
>>> > > pdion@cloudops.com>
>>> > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > I would be -1 about disabling the autodownload of the
>>> systemvm
>>> > > > > template,
>>> > > > > > > has this should be simplify deployment of a cloudstack
>>> system.
>>> > > > > > > although, the download URL should be a configurable value,
>>> > > > > > > maybe
>>> > > in a
>>> > > > > > > property file or thru the API somehow or via a pre-install
>>> command.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > I really like  download.cloudstack.org + mirror. I'm looking
>>> > > > > > > at
>>> > > > > getting
>>> > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > DNS entry: builds.cloudstack.org for the new Jenkins and I
>>> got
>>> > > > > > > no objections on using the cloudstack.org domain for
>>> community
>>> > > services
>>> > > > > so
>>> > > > > > > I'm
>>> > > > > > > pretty sure we would be ok to use download.cloudstack.org,
>>> > > > > > > where
>>> > > > would
>>> > > > > > we
>>> > > > > > > setting this up? on the current webserver of our website?
>>> > > > > > > could we
>>> > > ?
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Cheers,
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > PL
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Giles Sirett <
>>> > > > > > giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Erik
>>> > > > > > > > I agree on the existing users - not the end of the world.
>>> We
>>> > > could
>>> > > > > even
>>> > > > > > > > release a tiny patch to update the DB records
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > The piece that we need to be really careful with is the
>>> > > > > > > > "I've
>>> > > just
>>> > > > > > > > downloaded cloudstack  thing for the first time" scenario
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > But - there seems to be plenty of good ideas flowing on
>>> that
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Kind Regards
>>> > > > > > > > Giles
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > > www.shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> > > > > > > > @shapeblue
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > > > > From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbolous@gmail.com]
>>> > > > > > > > Sent: 19 May 2016 09:32
>>> > > > > > > > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
>>> > > download.cloud.com
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > As a user (with old ACS installations) I'd say that this
>>> > > > > > > > isn't
>>> > > all
>>> > > > > that
>>> > > > > > > > troublesome, this is easily fixed by updating the
>>> > > > > > > > appropriate db
>>> > > > > > records.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > We should ensure that we have some good posts discovered by
>>> > > Google
>>> > > > > and
>>> > > > > > > > other search engines, so that when somebody running old
>>> > > > installations
>>> > > > > > hit
>>> > > > > > > > this issue they find the workaround.
>>> > > > > > > > There's a lot of time to reach out to users and inform of
>>> > > > > > > > the fix necessary.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > --
>>> > > > > > > > Erik
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Giles Sirett <
>>> > > > > > > giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > This is a MAJOR problem and needs to be figured out
>>> before
>>> > > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > current
>>> > > > > > > > > download site is removed - @Raja - have Citrix committed
>>> > > > > > > > > to it
>>> > > > > being
>>> > > > > > > > there
>>> > > > > > > > > another year ?
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > It is my understanding that Cloudstack relies on this
>>> > > > > > > > > download
>>> > > at
>>> > > > > > > initial
>>> > > > > > > > > build/startup and then periodically if people do things
>>> > > > > > > > > like
>>> > > > build
>>> > > > > a
>>> > > > > > > new
>>> > > > > > > > > zone
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > So, users environments aren't going to stop if its
>>> pulled,
>>> > > > > > > > > but
>>> > > > > nobody
>>> > > > > > > > > would be a able to build/install cloudstack and it may
>>> > > > > > > > > cause
>>> > > > issues
>>> > > > > > as
>>> > > > > > > > and
>>> > > > > > > > > when users make config changes
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > The problem is, for new builds, its hard coded : you
>>> start
>>> > > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > Sec
>>> > > > > > > > > Storage VM, CloudStack will try to download the built in
>>> > > template
>>> > > > > > from
>>> > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > My understanding is that its simple db  change to make
>>> > > > > > > > > once an
>>> > > > > > > > environment
>>> > > > > > > > > is running (exisiting users) but *may* require a code
>>> > > > > > > > > patch to
>>> > > > fix
>>> > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > initial install
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > #notideal
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Really, this should be maintained by ASF/ the project as
>>> > > > > > > > > its
>>> > > key
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > software working, however my understanding is it involves
>>> > > > binaries
>>> > > > > > > which
>>> > > > > > > > > ASF is never keen on (and may be some 3rd party binaries)
>>> > > > > > > > > - so
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > > > > just
>>> > > > > > > > > wont happen
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Apt-get is controlled by Wido et al (for which we all owe
>>> > > > > > > > > him a
>>> > > > > > massive
>>> > > > > > > > > thanks)  - but you are right, it is a 3rd party
>>> dependency
>>> > > > > > > > > and
>>> > > > > > > arguably a
>>> > > > > > > > > SPOF.  But, if ASF wont host binaries, we're always going
>>> > > > > > > > > to
>>> > > have
>>> > > > > > this
>>> > > > > > > > > issue.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > So, we could patch the code to point somewhere else - but
>>> > > > > > > > > where
>>> > > > ? -
>>> > > > > > by
>>> > > > > > > > > definition its got to be something maintained by a 3rd
>>> > > > > > > > > party
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > We had this debate some time ago when talking about the
>>> > > > > repositories.
>>> > > > > > > We
>>> > > > > > > > > (ShapeBlue) maintain a repo for our customers, which
>>> wev'e
>>> > > always
>>> > > > > > > opened
>>> > > > > > > > up
>>> > > > > > > > > as public. However, there were concerns about having a
>>> > > > > > > > > company
>>> > > > > domain
>>> > > > > > > > name
>>> > > > > > > > > (which I understand) - so apt-get became our preferred
>>> repo.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Thoughts on how to fix this:
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > 1. if ASF would allow us to create the host entry
>>> > > > > > > > download.cloudstack.org.
>>> > > > > > > > > Its under their domain, but with the site being with a
>>> 3rd
>>> > > party
>>> > > > it
>>> > > > > > > could
>>> > > > > > > > > be allowed
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > 2. maybe Citrix could commit to pointing the current DNS
>>> > > > > > > > > entry
>>> > > > to a
>>> > > > > > new
>>> > > > > > > > > location (would be simplest but may be legally complex
>>> and
>>> > > relies
>>> > > > > on
>>> > > > > > > > > ongoing goodwill)
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > 3. make a mod to allow users to choose the download
>>> > > > > > > > > location on
>>> > > > > > > install.
>>> > > > > > > > > We can then maintain apt-get. To remove the SPOF, we
>>> could
>>> > > > > > > > > then
>>> > > > get
>>> > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > templates copied to a number of 3rd party locations and
>>> > > > > > > > > allow
>>> > > > > people
>>> > > > > > to
>>> > > > > > > > > choose which one they use
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Kind Regards
>>> > > > > > > > > Giles
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > giles.sirett@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> > > > > > > > > @shapeblue
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > > > > > From: williamstevens@gmail.com [mailto:
>>> > > williamstevens@gmail.com]
>>> > > > > On
>>> > > > > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens
>>> > > > > > > > > Sent: 16 May 2016 18:59
>>> > > > > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> > > > > > > > > Cc: Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
>>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
>>> > > > download.cloud.com
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > @Ian, yes, but I think there is more to it than that.  We
>>> > > > > > > > > can
>>> > > > > change
>>> > > > > > it
>>> > > > > > > > > going forward and we can move everything from there over
>>> > > > > > > > > to a
>>> > > new
>>> > > > > > > domain.
>>> > > > > > > > > I believe the problem is with all of the existing ACS or
>>> > > > > > > > > CCP
>>> > > > > installs
>>> > > > > > > out
>>> > > > > > > > > there currently pointing at the download.cloud.com URL,
>>> so
>>> > > when
>>> > > > it
>>> > > > > > > goes
>>> > > > > > > > > down, those installs have to be updated.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Maybe I don't understand exactly, but that is the
>>> > > > > > > > > impression I
>>> > > am
>>> > > > > > > getting
>>> > > > > > > > > from this thread.  Can this be confirmed?
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > *Will STEVENS*
>>> > > > > > > > > Lead Developer
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
>>> > > > > > > > > 420 rue Guy *|* Montreal *|* Quebec *|* H3J 1S6 w
>>> > > > > > > > > cloudops.com
>>> > > > *|*
>>> > > > > > tw
>>> > > > > > > > > @CloudOps_
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ian Rae
>>> > > > > > > > > <irae@cloudops.com>
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Hey guys, who controls apt-get.eu and given the
>>> (rather
>>> > > > > > concerning)
>>> > > > > > > > > > level of dependency on the operation of the
>>> > > download.cloud.com
>>> > > > -
>>> > > > > > > would
>>> > > > > > > > > > it not make sense to use a domain that is under the
>>> > > > > > > > > > control
>>> > > of
>>> > > > > > party
>>> > > > > > > > > > whose alignment with CloudStack will not shift. I
>>> > > > > > > > > > hesitate to implicate the red tape of Apache
>>> Foundation,
>>> > > > > > > > > > but perhaps the
>>> > > > > fabled
>>> > > > > > > > > > CloudStack alliance organization would be a good way to
>>> > > handle
>>> > > > > this
>>> > > > > > > > > > long term.
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Raja Pullela
>>> > > > > > > > > > <raja.pullela@accelerite.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Paul,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > trust me, it won’t be go away overnight.  We are
>>> > > > > > > > > > > talking to
>>> > > > > > Citrix
>>> > > > > > > > > > > and
>>> > > > > > > > > > requested them to keep it active for another year.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Once we have the content copied over (I will work
>>> with
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Wido
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > > > > > > > verify
>>> > > > > > > > > > this) to cloudstack.apt-get.eu and update the
>>> > > > > > > > > > documentation
>>> > > > > (user
>>> > > > > > > > > > guides update and create a wiki to show how an existing
>>> > > > > > installation
>>> > > > > > > > > > can fixed to point to new URLs) we don’t have a
>>> > > > > > > > > > dependency
>>> > > on “
>>> > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com” –
>>> > > > > > > > > > right?  sorry, if I am missing something here?   Please
>>> let
>>> > > me
>>> > > > > > know,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > best,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Raja
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite, 2055,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > @accelerite
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/16/16, 9:38 PM, "Paul Angus" <
>>> > > paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Thanks Raja,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>May I humbly suggest that someone at Accelerite
>>> speaks
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>to
>>> > > > > Citrix
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>about
>>> > > > > > > > > > how long the content will remain on download.cloud.com
>>> ?
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Simply losing the content on download.cloud.com
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>overnight
>>> > > > will
>>> > > > > > > make
>>> > > > > > > > > > everyone look bad
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Kind regards,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Paul Angus
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>paul.angus@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> > > > @shapeblue
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>From: Raja Pullela
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>[mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Sent: 16 May 2016 16:44
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
>>> > > > > > download.cloud.com
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Paul,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Yes, you are right, this change impacts both
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>CloudStack and
>>> > > > > > > > > > CloudPlatform customers.  Not sure, if I understand you
>>> > > > > correctly,
>>> > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > > move away from “download.cloud.com” is permanent.  I
>>> > > > > > > > > > don’t
>>> > > > know
>>> > > > > > how
>>> > > > > > > > > > long the content on download.cloud.com will be
>>> up/available.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Based on Wido’s availability, we can get rest of the
>>> > > content
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > > > > > > > cloudstack.apt-get.eu, hopefully, by this week ?
>>> BTW,
>>> the
>>> > > > > > content
>>> > > > > > > > on
>>> > > > > > > > > > download.cloud.com is left as is and will stay as is
>>> > > > > > > > > > until
>>> > > > > Citrix
>>> > > > > > > > > > decides on what to do with it.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Best,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Raja
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite, 2055,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>@accelerite
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>On 5/16/16, 6:36 PM, "Paul Angus" <
>>> > > paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Raja,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>As this effects every copy of CloudStack and
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>CloudPlatform
>>> > > > > there
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>ever
>>> > > > > > > > > > was.  Please may I ask how long we have to manage a
>>> > > > > > > > > > migration
>>> > > > > away
>>> > > > > > > > > > from download.cloud.com?
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Kind regards,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Paul Angus
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Regards,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Paul Angus
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>paul.angus@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> > > > @shapeblue
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>-----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>From: Raja Pullela
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>[mailto:raja.pullela@accelerite.com]
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Sent: 16 May 2016 13:53
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Subject: Re: Migrating CloudStack content from
>>> > > > > > download.cloud.com
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Hi Paul,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Thank you for the additional file details and I will
>>> > > request
>>> > > > > > wido
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>to
>>> > > > > > > > > > copy these as well.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>BTW, I agree with you there is every copy of
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>CloudStack
>>> > > out
>>> > > > > > there
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>and
>>> > > > > > > > > > reason why I have requested Wido to download all the
>>> old
>>> > > files
>>> > > > as
>>> > > > > > > well.
>>> > > > > > > > > > Looks like we missed few and get these uploaded as
>>> well.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Please note that Citrix owns the “
>>> download.cloud.com”
>>> > > > address
>>> > > > > > and
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>we
>>> > > > > > > > > > have to get all the CloudStack related content from
>>> there.
>>> > > > Once
>>> > > > > we
>>> > > > > > > > > > confirm on the content move Citrix may choose to remove
>>> > > > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > content
>>> > > > > > > > > > from the location.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>That said, I will get in touch with Wido again and
>>> do
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>a
>>> > > > > complete
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>copy
>>> > > > > > > > > > such that we have everything.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Best,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Raja
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Senior Manager, Product Development Accelerite,
>>> 2055,
>>> > > > > Laurelwood
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>@accelerite
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>On 5/14/16, 7:12 AM, "Paul Angus" <
>>> > > paul.angus@shapeblue.com
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Raja,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>I've just picked up on this.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>There are a number of URLs which are hardcoded into
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>the
>>> > > > > > > CloudStack
>>> > > > > > > > > > database for the small built-in templates.  These are
>>> in
>>> > > > > > > > > > just
>>> > > > > about
>>> > > > > > > > > > every copy of CloudStack out there.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > >
>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/f59f18fb-ae94-4f97
>>> > > > > > > -afd
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2-f8
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>4
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>755767aca.vhd.bz2
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > >
>>> http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875-3c8d-92
>>> > > > > > > be-c
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>001b
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>d
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>8a0faf.qcow2.bz2
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > >
>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos56-x86_64.vh
>>> > > > > > > d.bz
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > http://download.cloud.com/releases/4.3/centos6_4_64bit.vhd.bz2
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > http://download.cloud.com/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > >
>>> http://download.cloud.com/templates/builtin/centos-7-x86_64.ta
>>> > > > > > > r.gz
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>These will need copying and the CloudStack code
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>updating
>>> > > to
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>new
>>> > > > > > > > > > location.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>I don't think that you can deprecate
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>download.cloud.com
>>> > > or
>>> > > > > > it's
>>> > > > > > > > > > contents for some time, without causing a lot of issues
>>> > > > > > > > > > for
>>> > > > > users.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Hi,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Short Term - all the content has moved to
>>> > > > > > cloudstack.apt-get.eu
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Which sections to be modified?
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>The Install Guide needs to be modified.  Sample
>>> > > > links/details
>>> > > > > > are
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>mentioned below for 4.6 and same needs to be
>>> updated
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>for
>>> > > > > other
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Released versions of Cloudstack documentation:
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > >
>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-installa
>>> > > > > > > tion
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>/en/
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>4 .6/management-server/#downloading-vhd-util
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Section - Downloading vhd-util¶
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>What to do modified ?
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>modify URL from
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > http://download.cloud.com.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/vhd-util
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/tools/vhd-util
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>@Rajsekhar can you please update the sections ?
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Thanks
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Raja
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Senior Manager, Product Development
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Accelerite,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>2055, Laurelwood Road,  Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Phone: 1-408-216-7010,  www.accelerite.com,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>@accelerite
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Kind regards,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Paul Angus
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Regards,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Paul Angus
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>paul.angus@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> > > > > @shapeblue
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>
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