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From Will Stevens <wstev...@cloudops.com>
Subject Re: 4.9 Release Management
Date Wed, 02 Mar 2016 21:21:35 GMT
Yes, I understand and agree with you.  On the flip side, the lack of CI has
been a thorn in our side for a long time and the increased cadence only
adds to this problem, so I am trying to walk a thin line here.

Personally, if CI is the only thing I can contribute to ACS as the 4.9 RM,
I will be happy with that.  It is a problem that has to be solved and
someone has to own it.

*Will STEVENS*
Lead Developer

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com> wrote:

> That's good enough for me (tm). you're figuring out what you need to
> figure out. I know the feeling. :)
>
> We probably need to have a concensus around release cadence and stick to
> it for a while. Otherwise we're going to lose some credibility as project.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Will Stevens <wstevens@cloudops.com>
> Sent: 2 Mar 2016 20:46
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 4.9 Release Management
>
> I don't think I can answer that at this time.  My personal opinion is that
> CI is more important than the release timeline, but others may not share
> this opinion (as it is only my opinion).   I am full steam ahead trying to
> review what we have in place and the work that different parties have done
> on CI to date.  I am hoping to have a CI implementation setup in my
> environment soon, which will enable me to better assess the current state
> of affairs.
>
> There are a lot of moving parts involved and I will be the first to admit
> that I don't have a firm grasp on everything yet, so reviewing our Marvin
> test coverage and output is something I have not yet had a chance to
> tackle.
>
> Does that answer your question well enough?  :)
>
> *Will STEVENS*
> Lead Developer
>
> *CloudOps* *| *Cloud Solutions Experts
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>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Paul Angus <paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for taking up the baton Will et al.
> >
> > Just for clarity - given that getting CI 'done' will take some time
> > (mainly because of the state of the Marvin Tests and Marvin output) - are
> > 'we' now dropping the monthly releases?
> >
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> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Will Stevens [mailto:williamstevens@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 02 March 2016 17:15
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: 4.9 Release Management
> >
> > Hello Everyone,
> > I have mentioned this in other related threads, but I wanted to make an
> > official thread on the topic.
> >
> > I am nominating myself as the release manager for 4.9. Please feel free
> to
> > discuss if you have comments or concerns.
> >
> > I will not be working alone, I will be assisted by Koushik Das and
> Patrick
> > Dube. I will be running point, but all three of us will be working
> together
> > as a unit for this release.
> >
> > Our main focus for this release is the integration of hardware Continuous
> > Integration (CI) into the PR flow. Koushik and his team will be setting
> up
> > a CI environment which will be used for testing PRs and I will also be
> > setting up a CI environment for testing PRs.
> >
> > The details of the CI integration will be handled publicly, but we will
> > likely have to work with a minimum viable implementation initially and
> move
> > forward from there. Here are some of the key aspects of the CI which are
> > top of mind for me.
> >
> > - Standardize a feedback mechanism to post the result of CI runs back to
> > the relevant PR. I believe the best way to do this would be to post a
> > summary of the CI run in the PR thread on Github. With the existing
> > integration, this will then get pushed to the mailing list (since all
> > comments on a PR are pushed to the mailing list).
> > - Ideally, we will also make the CI logs available for the run. We are
> > still working out the details of how we do this, but we will likely be
> > pushing the logs to an object store with a cleanup window to remove the
> > logs after a set period of time (probably a week). This should give
> people
> > the opportunity to pull the logs if they are interested in the test
> > results, but will reduce the need for ever growing storage.
> > - In order to parallelize the CI operations, we will not be automatically
> > kicking off a CI run for every PR for now. Instead, we will communicate
> > between us and each run distinct PRs so we can maximize the utilization
> of
> > our hardware.
> >
> > Some longer term goals of the CI in my mind are as follows:
> >
> > - I would like the core CI framework to be easily distributed and
> > accessible to anyone who has hardware available. This would enable anyone
> > to setup a CI on their hardware and it would automatically be hooked up
> to
> > feedback the results to the Github PRs. I feel this is very important
> long
> > term because every individual or organization depends on a different
> > configuration and hardware setup, so it empowers them to validate their
> own
> > use case while adding value back to the community.
> >
> > Additional details will follow, namely the release schedule etc.
> >
> > Please contribute your ideas and feedback.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Will
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