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From Rohit Yadav <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] LTS Release Cycle
Date Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:32:09 GMT
Based on my long-time experience with maintaining and doing release work on 4.3 and later 4.5,
there are many reasons where backporting is needed and forward merge won’t work;

1. Due to high codebase changes mostly due to major refactorings, it is not possible to simply
cherry-pick a commit; backporting many times involved writing the fix manually based on the
commit diff that I wanted to backport. Cherry-picking becomes impossible if anyone has changed
package names, file/directory paths, removed code etc.

2. Forward merging will also start failing (due to same reason as above) as time progress
the codebase diverges due to refactoring, new code and any design/architectural changes. The
other issue with forward merging is that it would require merging from the oldest branch to
the newest, with time there would be several branches (given the monthly pace) between the
LTS branch and the future master branch. So, in my experience backporting may become necessary.

3. The bugfix author may not send their fix/PR against old branches, as time progresses developers
won’t care much about the older LTS branch(es). Wrt 4.3/4.5 at times I had to backport changes
myself after failing to get the original author send the fix against 4.3/4.5 branch. This
is expected of developers, as they contribute in our own *free* time and they may not have
the time, bandwidth or interest in seeing those fixes in older branches.

For example, we’ve 4.7 and 4.8 (upcoming) where forwarding merging will work for sometime,
but in 14-20 months the developers may not send bugfix/PRs against 4.7 and expect future RMs
to merge them forward as that would require both merge-conflict fixing and testing for all
intermediate branches 4.8 to 4.20 (assuming, monthly releases we’ll at least reach 4.20
in 14-20 months and I’m not sure if RMs will have time and dedication to test all 12+ releases/branches
). For non-LTS branches, it may not make sense to even have those bugfixes.

In my experience (with pseudo LTS branches, 4.3/4.5) and opinion, LTS branches are going to
diverge wrt master with time but they are going to have a dead-end.

About cherry-picking, the way we’re going git commits/merge at least I’m not able to follow
the git history at all, it looks like a mess to me. We talk about ability to trace commits
through branches, but I cannot even follow changes in the same branch now (say master). I
personally use git diff and git log -p to trace changes using differences now (in files or
paths/folders). Cherry-picking is not bad, if done right (always include the git commit ID
from where it was picked using -x -s) you can trace it.


Rohit Yadav
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