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From Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: 4.6 release
Date Wed, 25 Nov 2015 09:12:54 GMT
@erik and @nux

Can you check this:
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-docs-rn/pull/26

let me know if you agree with the upgrade instructions..

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Pierre-Luc Dion <pdion891@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For cloudstack-awsapi, shouldn't we include is rpm in the 4.6 repo so
> ```yum upgrade``` will work, then part of the RN would be to remove awsapi
> after the upgrade if it's not used?  Otherwise we can add ```rpm -e
> --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi``` to the RN
> 
> For the repo URL http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.X, as far as I know
> (4.4.x) they always been built with noredis libs, but the package name does
> not tell it, this is unfortunate. So I guest it would make sense to state
> in the RN that they are including noredis libs ?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Remi Bergsma <RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> These should be in the RN for 4.6.0, we can add it asap indeed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/11/15 12:07, "Sebastien Goasguen" <runseb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Remi Bergsma <RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It was an requirement but is removed in 4.6.0 (the ~1M line code delete
>> change).
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, so we need to add two things to the RN/docs then:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Remove old dependency on ‘awsapi’ (did not test, copied from Nux):
>>>> rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi
>>>> 
>>>> 2. If upgrading from 4.4.x or earlier, 4.6.0 needs to have both
>> systemvm templates of 4.5.0 and 4.6.0 registered prior to upgrade.
>>> 
>>> I think we should have this in the RN before 4.6.1 announce 4.6.0
>>> 
>>> Then we will write the RN for 4.6.1
>>> 
>>> makes sense ?
>>> 
>>>> This will be fixed in 4.6.1 (fix already merged)
>>>> 
>>>> I will cut an RC for 4.6.1 on Monday next week.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Remi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/11/15 11:52, "Erik Weber" <terbolous@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> isn't awsapi a requirement in older versions?
>>>>> 
>> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/GA-4.5.1/packaging/centos63/cloud.spec#L88
>>>>> 
>>>>> thus everyone doing an upgrade would have it installed, or do i
>>>>> misunderstand it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Erik
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Nux! <nux@li.nux.ro> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we do need to mention this in the notes, if people have the
>>>>>> "awsapi" package installed, they should remove it, or we should
>> gracefully
>>>>>> "obsolete" it from the RPM packaging.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had to manually "rpm -e --nodeps cloudstack-awsapi" to avoid
>> conflicts,
>>>>>> but otherwise the upgrade went fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nux!
>>>>>> www.nux.ro
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Sebastien Goasguen" <runseb@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org, "Remi Bergsma" <
>>>>>> RBergsma@schubergphilis.com>, "Pierre-Luc Dion" <pdion@cloudops.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 November, 2015 09:53:10
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <runseb@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Talking about 4.6
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There seems to be an issue when people upgrade from 4.5.2
and the
>>>>>> awsapi package
>>>>>>>> is missing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ping on this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Before me make the 4.6 release announcement is there an issue
with
>> the
>>>>>> upgrade ?
>>>>>>> Do we need additional notes in the upgrade mechanisms and release
>> note
>>>>>> to talk
>>>>>>> about the removal of the awsapi package ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can someone (ping @pdion) upgrade the release notes to mention
the
>> fact
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> awsapi is removed and add a step in the upgrade process ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2015 02:04 PM, Paul Angus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.6.0/upgrade/upgrade-4.5.html#hypervisor-vmware
>>>>>>>>>> states:
>>>>>>>>>> 'Warning
>>>>>>>>>> For VMware hypervisor CloudStack management server
packages must
>> be
>>>>>> build using
>>>>>>>>>> “noredist”. Refer to Building from Source.'
>>>>>>>>>> I can't find the same warning in the 4.6 installation
guide(s)
>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Which version (noredist or oss) have the packages
on
>>>>>> cloudstack.apt-get.eu been
>>>>>>>>>> built with?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And actually is there any difference between /rhel
and /centos ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No, there is not. It's just a symlink. /rhel was the
old path and
>>>>>>>>> /centos is the new one.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Paul Angus
>>>>>>>>>> VP Technology/Cloud Architect
>>>>>>>>>> ShapeBlue Ltd
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 11:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: 4.6 release
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Paul, this is not helpful. please supply changes
for what you
>> would
>>>>>> like to see
>>>>>>>>>> instead so we can discuss.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul Angus <
>>>>>> paul.angus@shapeblue.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I’m out and about this morning, but I’ve
noticed that the release
>>>>>>>>>>> notes state that baseurl for 4.6 is
>>>>>>>>>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.5/
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And that somewhat buried in the vmware install
information is the
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>> that the apt-get repo only includes the oss build.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.       I fundamentally disagree with this practice.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.       If we’re going to do this then it
needs to needs to be
>> put
>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>>> and center on the download links page with an
explanation of the
>>>>>>>>>>> differences to save confusion. And a link to
where rpms which DO
>>>>>>>>>>> contain the noredist can be found.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like we’re actively trying to make
it difficult for
>> people
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> start using CloudStack.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *Paul Angus*
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *VP Technology/Cloud Architect *
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: ShapeBlue_col_logo_sml]*
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus
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